7 and 1
Posted: October 29th, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 279 Comments »It wasn’t pretty at all, but the Eagles beat the Niners 33-10 to advance to 7-1. What a season.
The Eagles didn’t have their A-game on offense. Carson Wentz was a bit erratic. The O-line struggled at times. The coaches didn’t call a great game. The defense did play well, continually pounding QB C.J. Beathard.
When the Eagles got into an offensive funk like this in the past, they tended to lose.
OAK 13, PHI 9 – 2009
NYG 15, PHI 7 – 2013
ARZ 21, PHI 17 – 2011
There was also the 13-13 tie with Cincy back in 2008. The offense would come out flat and struggle to move the ball. The defense would play well, if not really well, but it would never be enough.
This Eagles team just feels different. The offense had a downfield pass-interference call that set up at TD and there was a long TD pass. The defense came up with a pick-six. That’s 21 points based on three plays. That kind of quick-strike, big play ability makes this team dangerous even when things aren’t clicking.
The defense was stifling at times. They gave up 238 yards, their lowest total of the season. Beathard was only sacked 4 times, but he got hit over and over and over. He took a real beating. The Niners were hurt on the OL going into the game and then lost a pair of starters so this was a game where the Eagles were supposed to dominate up front.
Jalen Mills made a huge play late in the half. The Eagles led 9-0 and had just scored a TD to get that lead. Mills dropped back, made a good read and then jumped a route to pick off a pass from Beathard. Mills then weaved through traffic and went across the field for the TD. The offense added a 2-point conversion and suddenly the score was 17-0.
At that point, you knew the game was over. It was just a question of how it would play out.
The Eagles could have overlooked the 0-7 Niners, but that didn’t happen. The early offensive struggles were about execution and not effort. The Eagles did a poor job of handling blitzes. Carson Wentz seemed to hold the ball too long at times. Might have helped to call plays with shorter routes as well. The Niners front seven played really hard and won the battle up front more than they should have.
Big V was up and down at LT. He gave up one sack for sure. I’ll need to re-watch the game to know what happened in detail. He did have some good blocks. When you think about his first start last year, at RT vs the Skins, this was an infinitely better performance. Vaitai played well enough for the offense to function and move the ball.
There will be plenty for the coaches to fix on offense. And I’m sure Jim Schwartz will find a thing or two to complain about on defense.
At the end of the day, the Eagles won by 23 and are now 7-1. The crazy, fun season keeps rolling on.
*****
Oh yeah…go Skins.
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Downvote. I remember each and every one of those games. Painfully. Put a sock in it Lawlor.
“Enjoy the Ride” must replace “Trust the Process”
Tommy I’d be curious to see if you think the wetness affected how Wentz was throwing it, I don’t know what kind of history he has throwing the wet ball but it sounded like he was having trouble deciding whether to use the glove, no glove, glove, etc.
Otherwise I’m surprised there weren’t more fumbles today because it was a soggy one.
Decent day , good times when a 33-10 victory ” wasnt pretty” and no injuries.. good enough for Foles to play SWEET
No injuries was the biggest thing. Was worried someone was going to tear up their knee on the slippery turf.
Ken Flajole.
The Eagles suck. I was hoping for a shutdown and they let me down again.
A shutout? :p
Yes i was still pissed about that TD until we scored right back
ESOL. 🙂
Oh so that’s who you are.
Who am I?
That guy.
Ok.
If you don’t know I’m not going to tell you.
You’re not me. I hope that clears it up. I wanted the shutout to, so maybe I’m you. Now I’m confused.
One thing that appears to be different, is Wentz has earned the trust of DP and FR, and he’s welcome to adjust at the LOS. This and the fact that DP is not showing a tell when things get contentious. He seems as likely to run as to throw, and that opens up the play book. Of course we haven’t really been in a hole late very much so far, but scoring early, balancing the play-calling and letting Dr Wentz operate has been a nice combination.
DeShaun Watson is pretty damn good lookin young athlete !!
Yeah but he’s not Carson.
DW moves athletically like RW, CW doesn’t run as smoooooooth as those cats
I want to see how the Cowboys offense looks if Elliott gets suspended. I don’t think they’ll be very effective if they’re constantly facing 3rd and long.
Somewhere between…
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…and
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You’ll see that soon.
Washington is doing everything in their power to give this game away.
Not even Aikman could deny that hold.
I thought he hedged that by saying it was “a great hole”.
Dez Dez Dez …was dat you Dez? Where you at?
There you are. Where ya been?
We are not getting any help today from the other top NFC teams. Guess we just need to keep winning
We control our own destiny for everything, so we can square up with those other bums soon.
If you were starting a team today, would you rather have Dak or Cousins?
Unfortunately, I gotta say Dak.
Dak, but not by much. I don’t think either of them is good enough to win a Super Bowl without a lot of help.
Wentz
Cousins. Less gimmick and running game dependent.
Hmmm. What if they switched teams, who would you like?
Still Cousins.
Dak and it’s a no brainer. Cousins will be 30 next year and isn’t a young QB.
BTY – Smith was 29 went he went to the Chiefs in his 1st year and some of the critics said he was too old already to be a long-term franchise QB there.
Dak is so bad under pressure.
I’m so excited to end their hopes and dreams in 3 weeks.
lol, and then you get that play by Cousins
Watson out there doing Carson Wentz shit.
Flash in the pan. They won’t be fooling people with all of that option trash for much longer.
Nah, I think Watson is for real.
Real dumb; 3 INTs today.
Against a really good defense. And he also had 4 TDs and hung 35 on a really good defense on the road. If he’s not for real, he’s sure doing a good job of faking it.
Even though this was a blowout, this game seemed to show some of the injuries issues which have been piling up for this team.
Tough thing too is they won’t get back any key players after the bye either except Darby possibly.
Hicks isn’t coming back, but Darby keeps Jenkins out of the slot, and hopefully Watkins and McDougle off the field.
That’s really important. Jenkins “can” play slot vs. Jenkins “should” play slot are very different.
When we have two competent safeties behind him, I’d love to just let Jenkins play Polomalu and do whatever position he finds convenient. I wouldn’t call McDougle , Watkins, and Maragos (RIP) competent, though.
Truth.
Graham has been a solid in that Big Nickel Package and one of late additions who has been a solid/key contributor.
That’s true for almost every team at this point. They had flaws and still won with ease, I can’t nitpick.
I don’t need to re live this again personally.
Hey Tommy!
When Wentz and Mills both scored on big plays in the 2nd quarter, I knew the game was over as well. I decided I was not going to stress about this team facing the Niners at all today. Just decided to enjoy the ride.
Weather was not great and had to be a key factor. Missing JP and Hicks were obvious adjustments. But nothing stopped the Eagles today.
Glad to see Alshon get untracked and see Ertz remain steady throughout. Also noticed that Hollins came in for a couple of quick plays that sort of jump started the 2nd half passing offense. All very good signs.
I don’t remember ever seeing a team have “an Ugly Blowout” before. But that’s what it was. And you gotta win some ugly games to win big. I’ll take winning ugly by 33-7 every week of the year!
They do say that winning when you play badly is a sign of a contender, so far so good.
Are the Rams for real or fugazi?
Both. Beating bad teams good, beating good team fugazi. Smell like a wild card team that gets beat on the road vs. a division winner.
Goff isn’t improved, but not yet ready for big time football. Agree with Mike that they will make the playoffs as a WC and lose
Is improved?
YEs is
I’m definitely not looking forward to having Aaron Donald run up against the left side of our OL.
He’s awesome, but I’ll take our D-line group vs. their O-line. Especially with 75% Eagles fans in that stadium.
I’ll be there. I can’t wait.
I’m surprised they didn’t throw more slants to Alshon today.
At least the Dodgers dugout stopped throwing them.
Or any slants at all really
Curry had a very good game today and quietly has really come on the past month.
Seems like he is getting a lot more snaps lately while Long’s snaps have been coming notably down since early Sept. Love to see the numbers to confirm that though.
This team has 2 clear strengths – Wentz and the most deep and complete DL in the NFL. Other teams have certainly rid less to the Super Bowl and even won it.
Last time Eagles opened 7-1 was 2004.
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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LongCh99/fantasy/2017
Today not updated but his counts have gone up before today.
Thanks. Actually the exact opposite with Long getting more snap counts the past 2 games:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CurrVi00/fantasy/2017/
Barnett too:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarnDe01/fantasy/2017/
I really wonder what we do with Curry next offseason. We draft barnett for a reason and Curry is making more than he deserves. That said why weaken one of our greatest strength when we have limited resources the replace him.
7-1 and now there’s Megatron trade rumors floating around. What a time to be an Eagles fan.
Ha; I wonder who is really after him.
Someone with more cap space than us. Rams/Jaguars is my guess.
And Jordan Reed with the yearly injury
clockwork. I stopped drafted that turd in fantasy finally.
He wasn’t even recovered from the last injury yet.
Other thing that caught my eye:
9 Eagles players’ had at least 1 reception today. Here is a breakdown by game:
@ Skins – 8
@ Chiefs – 9
vs Giants – 6
@ Chargers – 6
vs Cards – 8
@ Panthers – 8
vs Skins – 8
With the exception of the Chargers and Giants’ games, really spreading the ball. Generally mirroring that approach rushing the ball too.
Offense has been scoring a lot of points despite having only 1 running or receiving yard game from a player this season (Blount – 136 yards vs Chargers).
I went down the list on that about a week ago. Also notable: Every single skill player that has been on the gameday roster has caught a pass from Wentz.
If I had the time, it would be interesting to compare to last year and early McNabb days although the league is obviously more of a passing-oriented league now.
Wilson may have just thrown the game ending pick. At least one NFC team losing like they’re supposed to today.
I hope that media dork is knocked out of the suicide pool!
Thanks hoss. I won with the Vikings however.
Lol. Oh yeah.
The rest of the NFL has been pretty disappointing. Dallas is going to win. Panthers, Saints, Falcons won. Patriots* won again though I’m sure they cheated. Browns couldn’t pull off a miracle against the Vikings. Houston beating Seattle is a nice, but very small consolation though. Don’t want to travel to Seattle in January.
Houston being Seattle is very nice.
It would have been really nice to see a Skins victory today too. Likely Boys split the next two and head into the big showdown at Dallas after the bye at 5-4.
Eagles should be 8-1. I forget the win percentage for East Coast teams vs West Coast foes but they get a bump for 1 PM starts & Broncos are coming off a short week/division rival.
Eagles win that game and then people can start talking about wrapping up the NFC East.
How is that small consolation. Other than the Cowboysbthe team I most wanted to lose was Seattle. Now we have a little breathing room even if we lose to them later this season. We need the playoffs to go thru Philly to have a shot
It matters. Not arguing. But a Dallas loss was the real prize here. “Is” – game is not over I guess.
Nope lol
Cousins missed a td there and turns it over! Oops Incomplete!
My son asked me who he should be rooting for in this game. I told him to root for many multi-game suspensions for bad behavior.
The Redskins are going to let Cousins walk rather than handing him a record contract after this season, and it will be the right decision. You might be able to win a Super Bowl with him under the right circumstances, but not if he’s tying up 20% of your cap space.
Wow. Call against the Cowboys and Aikman whining.
OH SHITT. THIS SEA/HOU GAME IS RIDICULOUS
Nevermind on Seattle losing.
SO literally no help this week
Who?
We don’t need no stinkin’ help.
Too early to worry about this.
It’s never too early. There are only 16 games. Every counts at the end
If we don’t lose again, we don’t need help. I’m more worried about ourselves.
The lord helps those who help themselves. We’ll stop Dallas in a few weeks and go from there.
Cowboys defense can’t slam the door, Redskins miss an important extra point, Cowboys returner makes a bonehead play forcing them to start inside their own 20.
Neither of these teams is very good.
Seattle will always be a problem. I will be at the game in December. Was there last year too. Can’t effing wait to get revenge. Plus my better half’s family lives there and cannot wait to return the favor they game to me last year.
I’m happy they lost the Super Bowl the way they did. They win too many crazy games.
Hell Yeah ..greatest single play in nfl history. . Coach face of all faces .. better than all the manning faces put together
I kind of wish DeSean was still on the Skins.
I kind of wish he never left here.
So I started Will Fuller in fantasy today.
But also the Texans D.
And my opponent had Wilson.
I’m ahead by 1 with Antonio Brown still to play. But he has Leveon and Chiefs D.
What a stupid week of fantasy.
Yeah, ill tidings all around.
Oof. Savage.
So next week, the NFC East has tough match ups across the board.
Broncos @ Eagles
Chiefs @ Cowboys
Washington @ Seattle
Rams @ Giants
Shall be interesting.
Dallas, Washington, and Giants all losing for sure. We’ll see how we do.
At this point Dallas is the only other team in the NFCE with a chance. The Skins are toast due to division losses.
Th Chiefs will be playing on a short week on the road. I think their better than Dallas, but that does level the playing field
According to Glazer who tends to be accurate; the Birds are supposedly going to be very aggressive before the trade deadline. Interesting.
I’ll believe it when LaCanfora says it.
I’m not advocating for this but it is an interesting nugget. Det. had been contacted by teams aquiring about Megatron’s rights. Megatron was spotted on a plane heading to Philly today.
Now this report from Glazer.
Im sure if Megatron were to come back it would only be for a contender with a strong QB. We have and are.
Interesting stuff.
We have amazing doctors in Philly. He could be coming here to be medically cleared.
He has to have a physical with the Lions before anything.
Ok, best guess as to why he’s on his way here?
Maybe he’s here for informal conversation that just got made super public (if this is the case Eagles have to be really careful w/ tampering).
Most likely it’s just coincidence.
You would go to the team doctors that have interest in you to do that.
But there are specialists here that do a lot of surgeries, maybe a follow up on some old stuff?
Best I can tell he’s never had anything more than a high ankle sprain. If he’s got to see specialists for anything after 22 months of not playing football he’s cooked. Theory doesn’t hold up.
Fair enough.
Possible, but it does coincide with the rumor that Birds are reportedly going to be aggressive. Smith hasn’t been to great.
I don’t want the Birds to do it. I would much rather them put Hollins in Smith’s spot, Marcus Johnson in Hollins, and use Smith situationally.
We don’t need Megatron, he can’t block a DE. We need OL depth. That’s the only position group worth giving up next year picks for right now.
I concur.
I hear ya, but Glazer is pretty much right up there with him as far as accuracy.
From my understanding Glazer only reports on something when it is factual. Especially when he does it in front of a national audience on TV like he just did.
Except I hate Glazer because he fluffs that gap toothed Eagle hater Strahan and is associated with PED factory MMA “fighters” who got Lane suspended twice.
If teams are looking to dump players on the last year of their rookie deal for a 5th or 6th, I’m all for it.
I wonder if they flip a CB for a LB if Darby is healthy.
McDougle won’t net anything, Robinson wouldn’t make sense if you are pushing your chips onto the table, and the rest are all young cost controlled guys.
You can never have enough CBs.
Fair enough. I was thinking McDougle for a McDougle level LB, but I guess our current LBs are McDougle level.
Correct.
Yeah, idk how I feel about this.
Good. This team could use a bit more depth and an even an upgrade at MLB or RB is possible.
Yeah they don’t have their 2nd or 3rd round picks next year but this is shaping up to be a special year. Need to take advantage of that fact especially in a year where there doesn’t appear to be a great team.
Every move they make right now weakens them next year and the year after.
Maybe although I am dubious what ultimate value a very late 6th/7th rounder has next year.
At some point too, there has to be a bit of a priority to try to get over the hump and win a championship for a franchise long-deprived of winning one. Getting home field throughout would make a difference too in the playoffs especially given how this team had played at home under Pederson. First time Eagles have performed very well at the Linc vs overall record.
Doesn’t mean they need to get a big name or a ‘shiny’ type of acquisition but they could use a few upgrades including even a starter at MLB or better back at RB than Smallwood/Clement/Barner.
Kind of like what the Cubs did last year and the Dodgers to a lesser degree. Different sport with very different dynamics but the better team in football at home wins a more than in baseball including in the playoffs.
“Maybe although I am dubious what ultimate value a very late 6th/7th rounder has next year.”
But it isn’t just that. Likely higher picks, cap space we need to retain our own, and none of those trades makes up better than New England or KC.
Can’t not make a move because it might not make the Eagles better than a possible Super Bowl opponent. Teams operating with that kind of overly conservative strategic paradigm are doomed to fail.
Chiefs aren’t the same defensively without Berry and the Pats have the chinks in their armor too this year.
We’ll see how long Brady keeps taking this many hits and playing so well. Pats OL was better last year and the 4-game suspension kept Brady fresh late in the year.
The picks don’t super matter if they are late, but the salary cap does.
Also you’re not likely to get a starter level Mike for a late round pick.
I would be more than willing to trade a 4th round pick for a starting level MIKE especially one can be a nickel package option.
Kendrick continues to play at a high level but I’m dubious he’ll say healthy all year (already missed a start due to his hamstring injury) or that Hicks is going to come back at a high level as a starter.
I’m terrified they go crazy, trade for Cordy Glenn, Danny Trevathan and Megatron.
That’ll be pricey and ruin my draft fun.
Destroy chemistry (dream team mid-season), and mortgage or draft assets which are low already while guaranteeing future cap issues. Too add, not allow a player such as Hollins get more snaps in which he deserves.
Why would a secondary move or two suddenly destroy this team’s chemistry?
This team doesn’t need another WR. They could use an upgrade at RB to pair with Blount since Sproles is out, a better option at MLB, and possibly a T for depth with Peters out.
Roseman late tinkering moves have already paid some big dividends (especially Blount) and this team doesn’t need a flashy one. Just some more tinkering.
I would trade for Megatron if the price was right. Who wouldn’t.
I wouldn’t. He looked old before he retired. He’d come at the expense of the future.
I’d take an old Megatron anyday. I just don’t see where he’d fit really, with Alshon already here, maybe to take Torrey Smith’s job.
Torrey’s job is the burner. Old Megatron would be playing Alshon’s role.
I think Hollins can be the burner. Megatron I think would be a red zone target or an extra super talented dude on the field in 4 wides.
All of this is fantasyland of course, Megatron isn’t coming here. If we trade for someone it will be a linebacker or an OL.
I’m pretty sure Torrey’s job is the bench warmer at this point.
Megatron doesn’t really cost anything assuming he’s willing to play for peanuts. A trade would be less than what we got for Tobin.
Maybe he eats some of Hollins snaps, and maybe you lose Gibson, but that’s the extent of the downside.
Personally I’d see what Seantrell Henderson would cost (should be like a 6 for a 7) and otherwise hold pat
When did he look old? He capped off a 1200 yard season with a 10 catch, 140 yard game against the Bears, then retired.
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Ha! Torrey been on a hunger strike.
He did draw the PI in the end zone before the first TD.
Hollins taking his lunch lol
That guy is my number 1 no name player.
Truth.
Why does Carson always seem to need to tell him where to line up?
Starting to think AJ produced more in Chicago mainly due to them not having competent offense and having to throw it up a lot. Cutler was good at that too
Jeffery got a lot of his yards over the years on plays where he was covered well, and throwing it up to him just isn’t something the offense has to do at the moment
It’s certainly possible. Hopefully Wentz learns to use that skill, then. Read 1 covered, Read 2 covered, Read three is Throw it up to Alshon. Eli has 2 rings because of that shit.
I can’t stop watching Mills run back. I just keep laughing how he stops totally at the 12 and cuts back. And then he cuts back slightly again at the 5.
He’s a lot of fun. He’ll never be a pro bowl player, but the dude competes on every snap and isn’t a quitter like McKelvin, Carrolls, and/or Fletcher.
Yeah he can be valuable as the nickel who can start if there’s an injury. His competitiveness is a great trait. He’ll be one of those guys that gets better as he gets to know players but he’ll give up some stuff.
Carroll was a competitor just outside of 2015 not great. Fletcher was just not good.
Sconces was actually way worse. Dude was as bad as Asante except he just lifelessly dived ankle adjacent instead of making “business decisions”.
Sconces bitched about dead legs from practice after a big win. That dude sucked and was a cancer
He was seriously one of my least favorite Eagles of the last decade or so. I know Fletcher wasn’t popular here, but at least he competed. Vastly preferred him to Cary.
I hated them both equally, really.
I really hope you are limiting the Asante comparisons to tackling.
Yes.
When referring to CB fortitude I’m alluding to willingness to tackle.
Samuel wasn’t a good tackler but the rep he got was from that one season in particular when he had the bum right shoulder almost all year.
Eagles’ fans always seem to unduly criticize him, Waters (he was the offense when he was here behind a mediocre at best OL), and Mamula
Unless you can magically transform Mamula into Sapp and a first rounder……..no level of criticism of Mamula is enough.
“He’ll never be a pro bowl player”
Not according to Charles Davis today.
I enjoy Mr. Davis a lot and he’s a really friendly guy on Twitter, but I hope he’s not handing in a pro bowl ballot with 139 names on it.
I like him too, but when he said that, it really gave me even greater appreciation for the job Romo is doing.
So
Denver
Bye
@Dallas
Chicago
@Seattle
@Rams
@Giants
Raiders
Cowboys
We’re 7-1; people with me at 12-4? Wins Dallas x 2, Chicago, NYG, and Oakland.
Worst case.
Denver, Chicago, @Rams, @Giants, Raiders, Cowboys (despite resting starters).
Game at Dallas needs to be a win. I need them f-ing ended. We had them dead to rights last year with a worse team than we have now before Pederson threw away that game.
Oh I really hope so. I’m mentally preparing for a loss, followed by a week of “the sky is falling” narrative. But I think ultimately it won’t hurt us, and the Cowboys will still miss out on a wildcard.
I want them crushed and dejected in the same was Washington was.
Agree, we NEED to BEAT them
See them beating Denver next week and ending up 13-3
Ain’t nothing wrong with that. I just think the Denver game is the most trap-like trap game on the schedule at this point.
Nah. See them losing in Seattle and then another road game (Boys or Rams)
No sale on losing at Dallas. We owe them a might beatdown.
My bold prediction that has no chance of coming true: We actually deal Mills instead of acquiring someone before trade deadline. Sidney Jones comes back and we have Darby/Jones/Douglas as the bedrock corners for the next 10 years.
Book it (or not).
Schwartz would murder Howie.
Atomic wedgie in Roseman’s office and leave Roseman attached to the door.
Dias that mean we have put Eric Rowe issue to bed ?
..
Any MS2 sightings in the Sea Ocks game today ?
Calvin Johnson was not Megatron in his last year on the field. I can’t say I’d be a fan of giving up anything of value for him.
It wouldn’t be. Marshawn was a 5 for a 6.
Maybe we’re looking at him for OL.
I saw someone make a point earlier that if Johnson really wanted to play elsewhere, he could just unretire. The Lions would release him since there’s no way they’d want to start paying the $16M base salary.
Made this point below. CJ can’t block Defensive ends. He’s not what we need if we’re acquiring players at all.
Don’t want him for free… If he wants to try a comeback, tell him we’ll look at him in the offseason
Guessing at adding a WR seems odd to me. That is one of the few healthy groups we have.
yeah but T Smith just sucks. Waste of a roster spot
So who could we trade away to get picks before the deadline?
I’m thinking Torrey Smith is expendable. Maybe one of the CBs (can’t believe I typed that – what a flip from a year ago).
Anyone else who might actually have some value we could part with for a day 3 pick?
The more I’m thinking about this and seeing what folks have to say; I’m calling BS on the trade reports.
no one is trading for smith. Id rather cut him and play hollins. or trade for a fitzgerald
No advantage to cutting him now as he’d get termination pay and you’d not save anything on the cap. He’s totally a cut possibility for 2018 however.
id cut him because hes a waste of a roster spot. yeah yeah he has speed or whatever but he has worse hands than DGB
ha, nobody is that bad.
i legitimately believe that I have better hands than torrey smith
I’d love to have Larry just so I could get an Eagles jersey with my name on it.
I didn’t know his real name was Larry CrackSammich.
That’s Mr. Sammich to you.
Not gonna trade Torrey unless we get a WR back. Somebody needs to take the reps, and we’d be down to 4 WRs.
FITZ!!!
Why would you want to remotely trade away key players this year for draft picks?!
This fetishism of draft picks by fans has gone overboard.
I can’t imagine we are unhappy enough with our WRs that we’d trade for someone who would have to learn to have a rapport with Wentz, etc.
A tackle may make sense but not sure of targets. Maybe we look for backup depth more than starters. We don’t have a ton of draft capital and may need the rollover cap space next summer. On the other hand, if there is a key target out there, may be worth going for it this year.
Props to Curry. Very stout against the run and getting lots of pressure on QBs. May not be playing up to the big contract yet, but seems to be getting there. Kendricks continues to have big games, and CB’s continue to play beyond any reasonable expectation. Special teams come up with a big play. Offense didn’t play well overall, but came up with big plays when needed and still managed to put up over 25 pts. No doubt this team is the most complete team and best team in NFL. Go Eagles!
If Curry were still on his rookie deal I wouldn’t rip him, we’ll see how he finishes the year from a production standpoint.
you cant blame him for his contract. dude is balling right now and could have had 3 more sacks today. hes also a very underatted reason why we have the best run D in the NFL.
I don’t blame him for the contract, but his output doesn’t match his cap hit; that’s a recipe for a ticket off of every team in the league.
And
“could have had 3 more sacks today” is the general knock on the dude as vocalized by Schwartz this offseason.
thats true but I honestly think hes playing up to that contract this year, just not getting the sack numbers on would want. Its like saying that graham was bad last season because he only had 5.5 when he was obviously one of the best DEs in the league. for example I would have rather had graham last year than vic beasley even though beasley had more than twice as many sacks
I don’t think we’re going to be on the same page with the vitality of sack total for what a DE is worth overall. What that makes a guy worth on your cap isn’t in dispute however. Dudes who don’t get to the QB just aren’t in line for the same paydays as dudes who do a lot of other things well.
And I agree on Graham, but there is a reason Howie set that bonus money for him based on sack totals.
gotcha. your looking at it from a resource allocation POV.
Yup. If this was baseball, I’d be all kinds of “screw it” with not worrying about guys helping the team at any price because there isn’t a real cap. It’s just we have guys who are free agents (Alshon, Bradham, Burton) and guys who are due for deals (Hicks) who we’ll need every dollar freed up to keep. Because you can roll every dollar of cap space forward, I don’t like seeing resources allocated in excess of any given player’s production.
i cant see us resigning hicks this offseason. gotta let him play out his rookie contract next year to see if he comes back from his injury. Alshon and bradham comes back at 10m and 6m respectively. jernigan is ikely to get paid. Peters comes off the books :(. burton isnt worth it because hes not a good TE2. I want my TE2 to be able to block, especially with ertz as our te1. draft a blocking TE in the late rounds to replace him. if he wants a cheap deal then he can be the h-back/te3 that he is now.
I totally forgot about Jernigan. He’s a “must” resign because of the draft capital you sacrificed to bring him in was much more than what you’d pay for a rental player.
if the lions offered you megatron for a 4th and he wanted to pay for us do you pull the trigger?
No, I like how both our D line and our WRs are playing right now.
Nope.
I’d say we already got 15 spot drop in the 4th round worth of value out of him, but I put him as the top priority in resigning guys.
Dropping 25 spots in the 3rd round? That’s not an absolute ton of draft capital — well worth if he’s only here this year. But yes, I think he will be a priority signing.
Graham is great. Especially the way he started w us years ago and now is so valuable
what trades coud the eagles feasibly make before the deadline? The NFC is wide open this year and were sitting at 7-1. Obviously LT seems like the most obvious trade but I dont see many guys on losing teams worth trading for. Technicaly the texans are 3-4 but they look like a payoff team so no dice on Duane Brown. Staley coud be a target but hes old. I would rather have vaitai as the swing tackle but I dont see any LT trades coming. However, a trade for a guy like fitzgerald could be interesting. Huge upgrade over smith and a great team player who im sure despertely wants a superbowl. I saw a rumor about megatron but that seems ridicuous. Anyone have any ideas?
I don’t think Arizona has any intention of letting their all-time franchise player leave. A line backer would be nice, but we sort of need more draft picks not less.
if we can get a gamechanger like fitz for a draft pick id do it. we have the chance to win a SB this year. Id take a realiable WR2 that could help us win this year over a 4th-5th next year. Also it would be the best thing for the cardinals considering they are cooked this year and fitz is unlikely to return. it would also be a kindness to fitz who has been the consummate pro his whole career. gives him a chance to go out a winner
I think Arizona is wise enough to know that the rest of their home games would be blacked out, their fan base would revolt, and their ownership would have to watch their all-time great receiver flourish somewhere else. No…no… I think if Arizona had any intent of getting rid of Larry because they were cooked, they would of done it years and years ago.
welll i hope your wrong
Have you heard he is available?
just rumors. can you think of any other wrs who you might want?
That also might be available? Hmm maybe Martavias Bryant from the Steelers, but we have already dealt with the under-preforming-bad-person bust WR. Not sure of any other that would be available.
I just don’t really think we need a WR in general. Smith isn’t preforming great, but is still stretching defenses, and improving as the season goes along. Hollins impresses absolutely every time he sees the field. I don’t think I want to give anything up for a WR.
if we can upgrade for cheap sure…but WR definitely isnt my focus at the deadline if Im trying to make a move.
How about Seantrel Henderson? I think they could make a move for one of Buffalo’s OTs not named Cordy Glenn.
He’s risky because he has Krohn’s and suspensions for medical marijuana as a pain killer for Krohn’s but we need a cheap OT now and he’s a swing tackle who started.
He’s been a habitual user since he played for Miami. We’d just be hoping he gets through this year without a suspension.
Buffalo might want too much. We probably would consider a trade of a conditional 7th. I wouldn’t trade anything higher because he’s risky and a free agent next year.
His cap number is only 778, 716 (so say about 400K ISH for rest of year).
– UM interim coach Jeff Stoutland says true frosh OL Seantrel Henderson and Brandon Linder picking up offense so quickly is “incredible”
https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/8/8/16110862/buffalo-bills-training-camp-seantrel-henderson-plan-suspension-jordan-mills-dion-dawkins
That’s some shameful shit, suspending the dude for that. Crohn’s is no joke. I’d imagine that with the digestive issues that come with opiates, it’s probably the worst thing for pain in that case.
It is crazy how we view opiates (more than 200k Americans have died from ODs from legal prescription drugs since 1999) vs marijuana.
So many deaths from that and a notable jump in suicides from middle-aged men that it has bent down the average life span of Americans last year statistically which is shocking. Doesn’t get nearly enough attention out of the medical community.
A conditional 6th round pick for a veteran soon to be FA linebacker on a team that is going to miss the playoffs.
I don’t want to give up anything more than a 6th round pick at the deadline. We don’t have a 2nd or a 3rd round pick next year.
丁酉年(鸡)九月初十 2017-10-29到此一游!
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Whatever happened to Torrey Smith?
I have a milk carton with his face on it
Still running those long fly patterns . . .
I think the biggest problem is with the expectations. He is a low cost guy on his third team brought in to stretch the field. He does that. He scares defenders enough to get frequent PI calls.
i honestly just hate the guy. its more than the sum of all his bad plays, i just hate him and dont want to see him on the field. Hollins is easily as fast at this point in his career and is by far the better player.
You hate the guy? He is a vocal family man, great teammate, and has embraced Philly. What is there to hate?
as a player. he doesn’t look fast or coordinated to me. cant hands catch for shit. gives up on plays (thinking of the fumble when he just stood there and looked at the ball)
Ah, gotcha.
He had a rough start, and I like Hollins potential too, but we are a better team with Smith than without him.
Key attributes: doesn’t get open, can’t catch, no trust / rapport with QB, no heart… Otherwise, a great pick-up
Don’t get all of the interest in acquiring another WR especially Megatron. The Eagles have been able to distribute the ball effectively even after Sproles went out.
Complementary RB is a much bigger need for Blount (Smallwood/Clement/Barner are all underwhelming options) or another experienced T (the next guy on the depth chart is Hart and Womack/Wiz/Seumalo can’t play T.
Eagles don’t need a big name but they do need a bit more depth including at LB
Sem can and has played T.
He’s not a long term answer there but he can play it.
Crazy thought –
Is this DL better than the ’91 Gang Green defense?
’91 DL obviously had superior starting talent at DE. No DE is close to White overall and Simmons is a better pass rusher than any single player at DE the Eagles have right now including Graham or Curry.
I would actually take Cox over Brown (Brown was a great player but took plays off and would get tired as the game wore). At the very least call it a wash. Ditto Jernigan over Pitts especially when it comes to rushing the passer.
Real difference is in the quality of the backups. At DE, the Eagles are giving and getting a lot of quality contributions from Long and Barnett at DE and Allen at DT. One of the issue with the ’91 team was that the backups out of Golic at DT were big downgrades.
This team can give their starters more of a blow and even Graham is only at about ~70% of the snaps.
You take out Reggie White and this DL may be better. But… Reggie White.
Yeah Graham has turned into a very nice player but he isn’t drawing the consistent double teams White used to get and still putting up numbers.
White is still the greatest Eagles’ player I was old enough to see including first-hand and appreciate how damn good he was.
Burgess started at DE in 2004. He only had 2.5 sacks in the regular season… then 2.5 in three playoff games.
man i had juju in two fanduel leagues and decided to switch him out for doctson ast minute since i was also playing a brown.
Despite this team being 7-1 there still seems to be a bit of a disconnect between this team and the broader fan base.
– Is it because fans weren’t expecting much this year and are ‘waiting for the shoe to drop?”
– Is it because the the coach is relatively new and was’t well-liked last year by a segment of the fan base?
– Is it because there aren’t really aren’t long-term Eagles’ players that fans readily identify with besides a small handful (e.g., Peters, Celek)?
– Is it because the QB is relatively new as well and has kind of a vanilla personality?
– Is it because this team lacks true superstar talent or players putting up big numbers?
– Is it because there is a decent portion of this fan base cares more about ‘swagger’ than actual results (e.g., the continued popularity of Buddy Ryan)?
– Is it the general malaise the NFL is suffering from right now a bit and the contrived controversy about kneeling/standing for the national anthem?
What evidence do you have of a disconnect? I’m curious, because I don’t reside in or near Philadelphia.
Just more of a personal feeling than anything including running some errands this afternoon and not seeing crazy amounts of Eagles’ gear on.
Need to see some local TV/radio ratings as well as localized web traffic results to provide some more valid 3rd party numbers to validate.
Here’s what I think: To casual fans, this season’s success has taken them by surprise. In my long tenure as a fan of all sports teams that call Phildelphia their home, I think there’s a built-in cynicism that prevents many from jumping on the bandwagon too soon, lest they fall off the cart on a bumpy ride down the road.
In other words, they are holding back. JMHO.
Agree with this .. and so many new & unproven moving parts yes .. and football is down, and no Dawkins/Westbrook all time great types,
But all that might work in our favor this year. . . No one knows until thers an owner holding the silver football
Yeah, too many choke jobs from the team (remember 9-3 in 2014?) to really trust that this time it’s real…
When your heart gets broken this many times, you start to get cautious.
I wont lie, I just always get disappointed by this team so as excited as I get theres always a bit a doubt in me unfortunately.
So are coaches no longer allowed to come out in a suit/overcoat/fedora, or do they just not because windbreakers are comfier?
Even high-end bankers in Manhattan don’t wear ties anymore. I’m afraid the sartorial world of work has gone downhill.
High end world of bankers in Manhattan. .. ha! That is so 80s..
.. did you see the ad for the shirt brand Untuckit ??
They just raised 200M and I’m sure no one at that funding round had EVER worn a necktie in their life. . Just fedoras, some skinny kakis and summer weighted flannel
UntuckIT’s funding is just proof that too many VC funds are severely bloated with cheap cash and have no idea what to do with it.
Stupid as any ridiculous dot.com funding in the late 90s.
System needs an enema but that would possibly destroy it too in its current incarnation.
Nice!
Screenshot this on Friday in fact https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57ae78488726265e393c3627ecf90cfeb2bee86a0f348733ec5c8b3e05c8fb97.png
Raised $30M on a $200M valuation which what seems like it was probably calculated on the back of a cocktail napkin at a high-end strip club.
Sure they do in NYC/London/Frankfurt/Shanghai/Dubai/Hong Kong and it is freaking bragging rights on where you got your custom suit made.
If you can’t flash and flaunt your roll, what’s the point? Rap moguls and high-end finance guys have a lot in common.
To seriously answer your question, no, they actually have to wear licensed gear.
For anyone curious, the correct answer to my fantasy question was Fuller and it didn’t matter who else. Cooper, Dez, and Agholor were all shut down.