Game Review – PHI 37, DAL 9

Posted: November 24th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 65 Comments »

Dallas had no chance. Everyone was sure of that. Without Tyron Smith, Sean Lee and Ezekiel Elliott, the Cowboys would need to play a flawless game to beat the high-flying Eagles.

I didn’t fully buy that notion. This was a rivalry game and I’ve seen the Eagles on the other side of the equation. I watched Bubby Brister duel Troy Aikman in Dallas in 1993 and the Eagles kept that game close. You just never know how a team is going to respond in a rivalry game.

The Eagles came out red hot and were up 7-3. They made that look easy. Maybe too easy. The rest of the 1st half was a slopfest, by both teams. Dallas was able to go into halftime with a 9-7 lead.

You know Dallas was feeling good at that point. The mighty Eagles didn’t look so mighty. Carson Wentz played less like the 2017 MVP and more like the 2016 rookie. Dallas had even been able to run the ball with some success. What world were we living in?

There was also the matter of Jake Elliott being hurt. What do you do when your kicker is in the concussion protocol? LB Kamu Grugier-Hill did some kicking on the sideline. Things didn’t look good when one of his practice kicks missed the net and went into the stands. Fore!!!!!!!!!

Thank goodness for halftime.

Doug Pederson and his staff had some problems to solve. As they have virtually all season, the coaches made the right adjustments and came up with the right solutions. That meant running the football more. Going for it on 4th downs inside the 40 and 2-point conversions after any touchdowns that might be scored. It also meant Grugier-Hill would get to kickoff, if the Eagles could manage to score.

The Eagles took the opening kickoff and marched down the field for a TD. They added a 2-point conversion and suddenly it was 15-9. That staggered Dallas and the Eagles dominated from there. They outscored the Cowboys 30-0 in the second half. 30-0. Wow.

There was a lot of hype going into the game about Dak Prescott vs Carson Wentz. Put simply, we won’t be having that argument for a while. Prescott played the worst game of his young NFL career. This was a night when his team needed him to be at his best and he was just the opposite.

This doesn’t mean Prescott is a bad QB or that he’s completely overrated or anything like that. Prescott is a good player and there are plenty of teams who would love to have that young man playing for them.

What we did see is that he can struggle outside his comfort zone, which is having a stud LT and dominant running game. Prescott took a beating the week before so Dallas made an effort to have him get rid of the ball quickly. That meant he was going to need to put together long, methodical drives. They struggled to do that and weren’t getting chunk plays (only one more than 20 yards).

Even worse, Prescott made big mistakes. He threw 3 INTs and fumbled once. To be fair, the final pick was a desperation throw and the fumble came on a strip-sack from behind. Those were tough circumstances. The first two picks were bad. Amazingly, they didn’t cost Dallas any points. Still, they hurt field position and just aren’t plays you want your QB making.

Beyond obvious mistakes, Prescott struggled with his accuracy. He overthrew an open receiver along the sideline on a 3rd down play. He put the ball too low at other times. He wasn’t giving his guys chances to make plays to help him out.

 

COACHING

One of the differences in the game was coaching. The Eagles had an good gameplan that had some specific plays to attack Dallas. Between the gameplan and the Eagles OL, star DL Demarcus Lawrence and David Irving were largely non-factors.

Dallas did some creative things by running from 3-TE sets (Jim Schwartz hates facing 13 personnel), but I didn’t sense anything special from Dallas.

Doug Pederson stuck with his plan of deferring to the 2nd half. I love that. If the Eagles are winning at halftime, getting the ball lets them build the lead. If they are losing, they can come right out and correct some things.

There were some interesting strategic decisions because of the Elliott injury. Pederson went with the aggressive approach, as he has all year. The one thing I didn’t like was him being aggressive late in the half. The Eagles had no kicker and scoring a TD seemed like a long shot. Wentz threw a terrible pass that could have been a pick-six, but was dropped.

The offensive gameplan had some excellent run plays. The issue I had early on is that the Eagles didn’t run enough. Wentz threw 18 passes in the 1st half, with RBs only having 8 carries. That could work, but a lot of the plays were play-action passes. The Eagles did a lot with bootlegs and waggles, but Dallas did an excellent job on those plays. They covered the receivers and pressured Wentz.

In the 2nd half, the coaches stuck with the run and the Eagles OL took over the game. DL David Irving can be incredibly disruptive, but the coaches had a plan for him. They let him attack upfield and take himself out of plays. They used trap and wham blocks on him on some plays.

Jim Schwartz wanted to keep Dak Prescott in the pocket. The Eagles did a pretty good job of that. DEs played with discipline most of the time. There was one great wrinkle on 3rd down. The two DTs rushed as they normally would. The DEs lined up off the ball, standing up. They didn’t rush, but let the play develop and then attacked. This led to pressure from Barnett and an INT. 

Dallas did use 3-TE sets to run the ball effectively a couple of times. They had a 22-yard yard from this look, their longest play of the game. Schwartz said in his PC that the defense could have done a better job with how they handled the edge. Dallas got a numbers advantage.

PLAYERS

Carson Wentz had a mixed day. He finished 14-27-168 with 2 TDs. He made some terrific throws, but also some poor ones. He ran the ball effectively and did make some good pre-snap adjustments.

Wentz started red hot and led the Eagles to a quick TD. Hot turned to cold in a hurry. Wentz made some poor throws and his receivers dropped a couple of passes. It was a collective effort. Wentz was just 7 of 18 in the 1st half. He went 7 of 9 in the 2nd half, and that doesn’t include him going 4 for 4 on 2-point conversions. He played much better and the offense piled up the points. 

Let’s start with good throws. Wentz hit Barner for a key gain on the opening drive. It wasn’t a great throw because Barner had to adjust to the ball, but Wentz kept it away from the S and gave his guy a chance to make a play. The best throw in the game was his TD to Jeffery. AJ was in a tight window and Wentz fired a strike to him. Excellent accuracy and velocity. You also love the fact he trusted his big, tough WR to catch the ball in traffic.

The highlight play was when a LB came free off the edge. Wentz eluded him with a quick move, stepped up in the pocket and hit Jeffery with a good throw. You love it when your QB can escape trouble and still make a key play. There was another play where Wentz made a pre-snap adjustment and brought Jeffery into the slot. That matched him against a LB and Wentz wanted that. He hit AJ there for a 1st down.

Not everything was so good. Wentz tried to hit Ertz in heavy traffic late in the 1st Qtr. Ball was luckily batted down. That was not worth the risk. Wentz threw a pass just before the end of the half that a DB dropped. Should have been an easy pick-six. The ball was deflected by a DL and turned into a wobbler. That’s one of those moments when you have to think situationally. If you’ve got a tall DL in your face, take the sack or do something else, but throwing that ball wasn’t wise.. That could have been a disaster.

There was an odd pass to Agholor in the end zone. It sure looked like Wentz should have put the ball up since Agholor was behind the DB, but he threw it low. Agholor made a good effort to get to the ball, but dropped it. Strange play. There was another play where Wentz just underthrew a deep ball to Agholor. Didn’t step into the throw and it was broken up. There were a few plays where he threw the ball flat-footed and that seemed to affect his accuracy.

Wentz was 3-16 as a runner on non-kneel downs. Kept ball on option on 3rd/1. Easy 1st down.

RB

LeGarrette Blount was the workhorse, going 13-57. That wasn’t Doug Pederson’s intention, but it worked out that way. His highlight play was a 30-yard run. Blount had good blocking and got free into the secondary. He just weaved through traffic as long as he could after that. More of the same from him as a runner, never going down on first contact. He broke tackles throughout the game.

Jay Ajayi was the leading rusher with 91 yards on just 7 carries. He had the play of the game, a 71-yard run right up the middle. The only negative on that is that Dallas got him down before he scored. Ajayi caught a screen pass and got 10 yards on that. He had to break an arm-tackle on the play. He ran hard throughout the game and looked good. I think he would have played more if it wasn’t a blowout.

Corey Clement was 6-50-1 in the game. He had a 17-yard run and an 11-yard TD run. Great effort on TD run. Took a big shot right by the goal line, but still managed to get into the end zone. Clement ran hard every time he got his hands on the ball. He scored on a 2-pt conversion. Eagles lined up a bunch set and threw a quick screen to him behind them. He had to get by one tackler for the score.

Kenjon Barner had a great sequence on the opening drive. Made an amazing catch down the left sideline. I still don’t know how he got his second foot in. Crazy. Stayed on the field for 1st/goal. Got the handoff and started left, then cut back to the right and fought his way into the end zone. Great effort for the TD.

WR

Alshon Jeffery is playing his best football of the year and had another big game, 4-67-1. Also had a 2-point conversion. Made a big catch in the 1st Qtr. Got behind LB and in front of DB. Took a big hit, but held onto the ball. Highlight play was his TD. AJ was in the middle of a group of defenders. He had to fully extend for the ball, leaving himself vulnerable to a big hit. No DB hit him and AJ was able to snag the pass as he fell into the end zone. He hasn’t been a volume receiver for the Eagles this year, but has made impact plays.

Torrey Smith caught the first two passes of the game and helped get the drive going. Simple, short catches along the right sideline. Had a bad drop in the mid-2nd. Would have put the Eagles down around the 30. Made up for that with TD catch in the mid-3rd. Had to fight through contact to get open. Finished 3-28-1.

Nelson Agholor had a quiet game, catching one pass for -2 yards. Wentz hit him with a quick throw and the defender was able to get his knee down. Agholor didn’t stop and scored on the play, showing great effort. They reviewed and saw the knee was down, taking away his TD.

Mack Hollins caught one pass for 7 yards.

TE

Zach Ertz was back on the field, but had a quiet game, going 2-8. Dallas put DB Byron Jones on Ertz for virtually the whole game and he did a great job. He was all over Ertz. Jones is a freak athlete (he’s also the guy who chased down Ajayi on the long run). We don’t know if Ertz was at 100 percent yet. He did have some good blocks in the game.

Brent Celek was 1-28 as a receiver. I think he did his best work as a blocker. Sealed the DE to inside on Barner’s TD run. Executed wham blocks on DL. He was a big help to the run game.

Trey Burton had a 2-point conversion, but didn’t catch any passes other than that.

OL

The Big Sexies had a really good showing. Great job by the guys up front. They didn’t allow any sacks. RBs were 27-202 on the ground. Take away the long run and you’re still at 5 yards per carry. That’s impressive.

Lane Johnson was outstanding. He squared off with Demarcus Lawrence for most of the game. Lawrence had 5 tackles, PD and TFL. He didn’t have a sack or get much pressure on Wentz. Johnson kept him under control. No impact plays. Johnson was also very good as a run blocker. Pulled on Tackle Trap and was good vs LB. Good block on Barner’s TD. Went to double DT with Brooks, but BB didn’t need help so Johnson quickly peeled off and got a LB. Barner had lots of cutback room because of that.

Halapoulivaati Vaitai played well again. He got some help on pass plays, but more than held his own. I’m impressed with how he’s developed as a run blocker. Big V can do a bit of everything. There was a play where he caved in a DE. A bit later he pulled and led an outside run. You’ll see him get up to the second level and block LBs. Outstanding job on Clement’s TD run. Got upfield and took out LB. Pulled inside and blocked LB on Ajayi’s long run.

Jason Kelce was a force against the LBs all game long. Drove a LB off the ball on early run and helped Ajayi get 6 easy yards. Great block on Clement’s TD run. Sealed the DT and gave Clement serious hole to hit. Pulled and had great block of LB on run by Clement in the late 3rd. Sprung him for 9. Had key block of LB on Ajayi’s long run. Kelce did have a low snap on a pass play.

Stefen Wisniewski had the key block on an early screen that got Ajayi loose for 10 yards. Got LB on Clement’s TD run. Strong seal of DT on Ajayi’s long run. Wiz isn’t dominant at all, but he is both athletic and tough. He can win in space or at the LOS.

Brandon Brooks had another outstanding game. He did a terrific job on Barner’s TD run. DT went hard inside and Brooks just put him on the ground. Guys can’t tackle when they’re eating turf. Pulled to the right and had good block on opening run of the 3rd Q. Paved the way for Clement later in that drive by sticking on a LB and giving him a big lane. On the next play, used a trap block on Irving and Clement ran past that for a TD.

*****

DL

Vinny Curry was in on 4 tackles and had a TFL. Didn’t generate a lot of pressure on pass plays. Was unblocked off the edge and forced Prescott to get rid of the ball quickly. Blew up 3rd Qtr run by shedding the LT and getting the RB for TFL. Moved to DT on final series and was disruptive up the middle.

Fletcher Cox did his usual thing, disrupting the offense on a regular basis. Stat sheet shows 3 tackles and no impact plays, but the film says different. Shed Martin on 2nd/3 and stuffed RB for no gain on opening drive. Fought through block of pulling OL and got RB by the foot on run inside the RZ. Great effort by Cox. Shed the RT and stuffed the RB late in the half. Got pressure on multiple plays, just not always in dramatic ways. Once drove RG back and forced Prescott to throw a quick pass that only gained 1 yard.

Brandon Graham was in on 4 tackles and had a sack. Showed great effort in chasing down Morris after 22-yard gain on 1st Qtr run. Generally played bootlegs well. Stayed outside in. Dallas didn’t block him on run play and he tackled RB for just gain of 1. How do you not block BG?

Tim Jernigan had 3 tackles and a sack. Used a vicious swim move to get by Frederick and stuff run for minimal gain. Got way out of his gap on 3rd Qtr run and opened up big lane for Morris. Dallas ran at him on 3rd/2. TJ took on double team and stood them up. RB was stuffed for no gain. Fought his way past the LG for a sack in the early 4th.

Derek Barnett played his best game of the year. Made his first impact late in the 1st Qtr. Got pressure on Prescott and forced a quick throw that was picked off by McLeod. Got his first sack in the 2nd Qtr on bootleg play. Barnett stayed outside and kept Prescott to inside of him. Really impressive that he made an open-field tackle of Prescott on his own. Dak is very elusive in space. A couple of plays later he came off the edge and hit Prescott as he threw. That pass was picked off by Darby. Came up with strip-sack in the 4th.

Chris Long made the stop on 3rd/2 run as he hustled in from DE. Just missed sack when Barnett got the strip. Both were at QB at almost the same time. Credited with a couple of tackles.

Beau Allen got flattened by down block from LT and Morris got up the field for a good gain on that play. Good vs the run outside of that play. Was in on a couple of tackles.

Destiny Vaeao deflected a pass.

LB

Mychal Kendricks was in on 4 tackles. Blitzed on early play and forced Prescott to throw quicker than he wanted. Still a completion. Blitzed off the edge late in the half and forced overthrow on 3rd down. MK’s highlight might have been his blocking  for Bradham. Nudged a Cowboy from the side and kept him off Bradham. Didn’t want to block him from behind or hold the guy, so MK just ran beside him and made contact to slow him down. Worked. TD.

Nigel Bradham was in on 6 tackles and made one impact play. He scooped up a fumble in the 4th Qtr and ran it back for a TD. There was one odd moment. Morris got loose on a run to the right side. Bradham had a chance to go for the tackle, but instead took on the blocker. Looked like he should have gone for Morris.

Joe Walker played MLB in base sets. Tackled RB for no gain to open second series. Terrible blocking effort by Dallas TE. Walker just isn’t around the ball as much as you want a MLB to be. He will take on blockers, but needs to shed them and get to the ball.

S

There is no stat for talking, but Malcolm Jenkins was the team leader in this game. Let every Cowboy hear something from him after every play. Got in Dak Prescott’s face after pushing him out of bounds on run. Jenkins also played some defense. He had 4 tackles, PD and his first INT of the season. That came late in the game, but was in the end zone. You always love keeping the opponent from scoring, even in a blowout.

Rodney McLeod came up with his 3rd pick of the year. Lined up 15 yards deep and broke on the pass. Darby caused the ball to pop up and McLeod was there to snag the ball. Wasn’t able to return it for a score. Didn’t seem like a big deal because the Eagles were in the RZ, but they ended up missing the FG. Generally good in run support. Attacked downhill aggressively. Missed a tackle of Morris on 22-yard run in the 1st Qtr. Would have held him to less than half that. McLeod just went too high. Can’t do that against a strong, thick runner like Morris. Needed to explode through his legs.

Corey Graham didn’t make any plays.

CB

Welcome back, Ronald Darby. He looked great. If you saw his ankle in the opener, you would never expect that dude to play like Darby did on Sunday night. Bryant caught short pass in the RZ and Darby tackled him instantly, giving up only 2 yards. Spun him to the ground. Might have gotten away with PI on 3rd down. I go back and forth. Darby is almost 10 yards down the field when he contacts Bryant, but both are trying to play the ball. Helped to break up a pass that McLeod picked off. Darby got a good break on the ball and got a hand in to disrupt the catch. Picked off a pass in the 2nd Qtr. Prescott just threw the ball up to avoid a sack and Darby went up and made a nice catch. Led the team with 8 solo tackles.

Patrick Robinson played the slot and was outstanding. Dallas tried to go to Beasley on quick out on 3rd/4. Bread and butter play for them. Easy 1st down. P-Rob ran the route better than Beasley and knocked the ball away. So good. Made a good tackle on Terrance Williams on crossing route. Williams is at his best when running after the catch. Robinson exploded through his legs and put him down hard after a short gain. Covered Bryant on key play late in the half. Dallas was near the RZ and put Bryant in the slot on 3rd down. Eagles went Cover 0 (no S help) and Robinson covered Bryant like a blanket. Pass was way off target.

Jalen Mills got the finger wagging underway early. Broke up 3rd down pass to Bryant to stop the opening drive and limit that to just a FG after the long KOR. Big play. Physical throughout the game. Good vs run. Got a big hit on Bryant in the 2nd Qtr on inverted Cover 2. The S covered short and Mills went deep. Bryant tried to catch the pass along the sideline. Mills flew over and hit him like a ton of bricks. No catch. Dez Bryant caught a quick pass in the mid-2nd and Mills dragged him down by his arm. I thought he might hurt Bryant that was such a tough, awkward tackle. Slammed Williams to the ground to make sure the ball came loose on attempted catch in the 3rd. Love seeing a corner play with that kind of physicality.

Rasul Douglas and Jaylen Watkins made sure no one stole anything from the sideline area.

*****

ST

KOR – Barner returned one KO for 22 yards.

PR – Kenjon Barner fair caught four punts. No returns.

Donnie Jones – Averaged 45.8 yards per punt. Only one was downed inside the 20. Did have one clutch kick. 61-yard punt in 2nd when Eagles were backed up. That flipped the field.

Jake Elliott – Took a hit  while making tackle on opening KO and later was diagnosed with concussion. Missed a FG and left the game for good.

MISC –

Eagles gave up a long KOR to open the game. Looked like Mack Hollins, Joe Walker and Malcolm Jenkins were all at fault. Hollins was out wide and got too far upfield. Walker was inside and went too far in. Jenkins was there to clean up, but stumbled and Switzer got by him. Jenkins and Jake Elliott pursued and made the tackle, where Elliott got hurt.

Kamu Grugier-Hill took over the kicking duties. He warmed up on the sideline. While kicking “into” the net, he missed the net and the ball went into the stands. I think that convinced Pederson to forget about extra points and FGs. KGH did a great job with kickoffs. They had no hang time, but he put the ball into the end zone a couple of times, even coming up with a touchback. Crazy. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before. Just amazing.

***

GAMEBOOK

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65 Comments on “Game Review – PHI 37, DAL 9”

  1. 1 CrackSammich said at 5:17 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    I posted this in the last thread, but looks like I just missed the new thread turnover. Super board at work today, so I took a deep dive.

    Did you know that some of the draft capital from the McNabb trade was directly used to get Bradford? And that we still have a pick stemming from that that trade that haven’t been selected yet?

    -McNabb traded to Washington for a 2010 2nd (Nate Allen) and a 2011 4th.
    -We traded back with that 4th to pick up Tampa’s 2011 4th (Casey Matthews) and their 2012 4th.
    -That pick was then used in the Demeco Ryans trade. We traded our 3rd*** and 4th for their 3rd (Nick Foles) and Demeco.
    -In 2015, traded Foles + 2015 4th + 2016 2nd for Bradford and a 2015 5th (which was subsequently traded to Miami as part of our trade up to get Rowe, and the 5th we got back was used to select Jacorey Shepard. Rowe was traded in 2016 for a 2018 4th)

    McNabb + 2012 4th + 2015 2nd, 3rd, 5th + 2016 2nd = Nate Allen + Casey Matthews + Foles + Demeco Ryans + Bradford + JaCorey Shepard + 2018 4th

    You can also make the argument that the Bradford trade was used to recuperate the picks in the Wentz trade and so the McNabb trade led to Wentz, but that one doesn’t have a direct lineage. The Wentz trade deserves its own tree, but there’s articles everywhere on that one.

    ***Fun Fact: Texans used this pick was used to draft our current G Brandon Brooks.

  2. 2 CrackSammich said at 5:17 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Here’s another. Did you know the Kolb trade is protecting Wentz right now?

    -2011, Kolb traded to Cardinals for a 2nd and DRC
    -2012, we traded back with this pick for Green Bay’s 2nd (Vinny Curry) and 5th (Brandon Boykin)
    -2015, we traded Boykin for Pittsburgh’s 2016 5th (Vaitai)

    Kolb = DRC + Curry + the best years of Boykin + Vaitai

  3. 3 Jernst said at 1:35 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Tough call but ima say we got the better end of that deal…

  4. 4 wee2424 said at 7:07 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Great stuff.

  5. 5 Ryan Rambo said at 8:32 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Wow. Too cool!

  6. 6 scratcherk said at 8:56 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    I was going to suggest you repost here. very interesting

  7. 7 scratcherk said at 9:12 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    who knows how many more years it’ll go with that 2018 4th!

  8. 8 teltschikfakeout88 said at 6:05 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    The Negadelphian in me remebers how we whooped the Cowboys on thanksgiving in year 2 of chip Kelly… feeling all good…didn’t make the playoffs and Dallas did… please beat chicago…

  9. 9 Jamie Parker said at 7:48 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Yeah, it was like beating the Cowboys was bad for his teams.
    Yr 1: beat Cowboys to win the division, lost playoff game the following week.
    Yr 2: Crushed the Cowboys on Thanksgiving to go 9-3, finished 10-6.
    Yr 3: Beat Cowboys in OT, only won 2 more games before firing Chip.

  10. 10 Someguy77 said at 6:19 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Tried to defend Prescott on here from some of his harshest critics on here that he is at best a game manager QB (lesser or even poor man’s Alex Smith).

    Gotten pretty darn hard after these last 3 games including the stinker yesterday. The calls to bench him though are ridiculous and the much bigger issue has been the game planning and almost complete lack of adjustments by Garrett & his staff.

  11. 11 unhinged said at 7:15 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    One thing that stood out to me regarding Dallas, their defense cannot carry them when their offense is not generating TOP and points. That team is based on monopolizing possession and deflating their opponents’ defense. Without a stout OL, Prescott is seeing much tighter coverage on a decent receiving corps. To be fair to Prescott, he was groomed on a juggernaut, and is now having to adapt to mediocrity. I don’t know that that’s a recipe for developing a QB. He had a taste of functionality, but his instinct to make the play has him throwing picks and running for his life. He needs some slack from the Dallas fan base and media, but I doubt he’ll get any. Jerry and Steve Jones are living with their determined effort to rebuild the 90’s powerhouse, but they don’t have a brilliant HC or a QB with a pedigree.

  12. 12 Masked Man said at 11:14 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Dallas is so delusional. They think that everything they do is so awesome. Then later it comes back to bite them.

    They had a big edge on the division. But they squandered it from last year to this year.

    Dak is a young player that needs some development and some support. Just because he caught a perfect storm last year doesn’t mean he’s the best QB in last year’s draft and nobody knew about it.

    Dallas threw him to the wolves this year without Zeke. They let their O line slip this year. They let their defense slip. And Jerry’s running around trying to sue the commissioner.

    I’m not mad though. Dallas sucks.

  13. 13 ChoTime said at 12:02 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Someone said that QBs are either trailers or trucks. A trailer is a normal kind of player, who needs plenty of help from teammates to be successful. This ranges from a scrub who could possibly be successful in ideal circumstances, to a Foles who put up MVP numbers in such circumstances, to a Matt Ryan who’s definitely above average and can even be elite, with help.

    A truck is someone who pulls the load. Think Peyton, Brady, Brees, Elway, and on a lower tier, DMac. Guys who make other players better and can even be somewhat successful without much help.

    Prescott is a trailer. Wentz is a truck.

  14. 14 Someguy77 said at 6:26 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Reuben Frank was talking about Pederson/Wentz in the second year vs. Reid/McNabb.

    One of the the valid points he made is the how the rest of the NFC East was a mess early on during Reid’s tenure here and he really benefited from that. Argued the NFC East is in a very similiar position right now with the Giants needing to find a successor to Manning and a strong possibility they see massive changes in the front office/coaching staff this year, Cowboys having Jones in a highly meddlesome role and Garrett signed through the end of 2019 to big dollars, and the Skins having recent front office turmoil & having to make a difficult decision on Cousins.

  15. 15 Jamie Parker said at 8:01 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Eagles were a mess in 2005 between the TO debacle and McNabb’s sports hernia. Eagles won the division again in ’06, after McNabb went down again, this time with the knee. McNabb struggled in ’07, but then we went back to the playoffs the next 3 years, reaching a 5th NFCCG in ’08 and the division in ’10. The team had no chemistry in ’11 and were decimated by injuries in 2012. I’m not going to discredit the job Andy Reid did for the Eagles.
    There is something to be said about new head coaches and getting their QB here. Andy Reid and McNabb, Coughlin and Manning, Pederson and Wentz.

  16. 16 SteveH said at 9:19 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Dak is whack.

  17. 17 Masked Man said at 10:08 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Boom-Sack-a-DAK-a!

  18. 18 Guy Media said at 8:03 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    And now more sucky and no longer lucky.

  19. 19 Masked Man said at 10:28 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    There’s an article on Philly dot com today about KGH’s kicking role last week.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/kamu-grugier-hill-philadelphia-eagles-erin-smith-girlfriend-rutgers-soccer-20171124.html

    Man, everything is falling into place with this Eagles team.

    Who knew that the backup emergency place kicker’s emergency backup would
    have a girlfriend who is his own personal soccer style kicking coach?

    That’s just nuts that he has a resource like that in his life. And he had perfect form… (sort of). And he was kicking touch backs. During the Dallas game!

    Lots of great vibes with this team. It’s kinda crazy. But as fans, we’ll take it. Go Eagles!

  20. 20 Bert's Bells said at 9:57 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Shouldn’t Ertz be the backup kicker by that logic?

  21. 21 Masked Man said at 11:09 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    The way this team has been going, Howard Eskin could kick off!

  22. 22 wee2424 said at 11:17 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Looking at the Bears and Birds injury report over at Jimmy’s site I had to do a double take. I had no idea Sanchez was with Bears, and to my even greater surprise I discovered that Quinten Demps is as well. Demps really shocked me because I never would have guessed that he would be in the league this long. I liked him as a KR which is s dying position in today’s NFL, and a very marginal backup S lacking instincts and man versus man coverage ability.

  23. 23 SteveH said at 11:20 PM on November 24th, 2017:

    Demps has a tendency to play dirty too, and not the good kind of dirty.

  24. 24 wee2424 said at 1:37 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Yeah, I do remember him delivering some hits to the head.

  25. 25 Masked Man said at 12:12 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    I thought I remembered that Sanchez was with the Bears. Wednesday was the 5-year anniversary of “The Butt Fumble” which is the play he’s famous for apparently during his Jets days.

    But I could find no mention of Mark or his current team or that he was returning to Philly this week or anything.

    Thanks for the Heads Up. By Sunday there will be a lotta noise around town about Mark. Haha.

    Go Eagles!

  26. 26 Mac said at 12:41 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    They’ll have the chicken tenders ready for him.

  27. 27 Masked Man said at 12:42 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Ayup!

  28. 28 wee2424 said at 1:36 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    He more then likely won’t be coming to Philly. He is listed questionable with an illness. Maybe he gets sick to him stomach around this time of the year remembering the butt fumble. Lol it has to suck that the butt fumble is his defining moment in NFL history.

  29. 29 Masked Man said at 12:08 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Anybody see the news item about Wentz being fined?

    Apparently Carson is being fined $9,115 for a low block thrown on Demarcus Lawrence during the game last week. Reportedly it was flagged and a penalty of 15 yards was called. I don’t remember the play.

    Here’s a link to the story on PFT:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/24/carson-wentz-fined-9115-for-low-block/

  30. 30 Jamie Parker said at 1:32 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    It happened during the run back of Ertz’s fumbled 2 pt conversion.

  31. 31 ColorSgt said at 7:50 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    I knew there was a personal foul penalty on that play. I didn’t realize it was on Wentz. I rewatched the play and the official clearly called it on him, but the broadcast didn’t show the hit.

  32. 32 TXEaglesFan said at 8:33 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Had to watch the play on All-22 to see it. Wasn’t that flagrant. He was making a diving attempt at ball carrier and Lawrence was kind of in the way and got taken out.

    Another one that concerned me at time was when Cox was called for blindside block on Jenkins end zone interception, especially
    with what happened with Staley, the league might have looked at with scrutiny. He did absolutely nothing on the play. He might have feigned a hard shoulder block but never followed through. Like the ref was flagging on intent only.

  33. 33 ColorSgt said at 1:48 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    That’s the one i was thinking of originally. I knew Cox got an “away from the play” personal foul on a turnover. Didn’t get to see that one either.

  34. 34 T_S_O_P said at 3:41 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Philadelphia versus Chicago is for the Eagles – Brother Bowl III, before we then travel the very next week for Brother Bowl IV. That will be the last, unless we meet Minny in the POs, where Brother Bowl V will take on higher significance.

  35. 35 Masked Man said at 11:19 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Please fill in the blanks for me.

    1. ???
    2. Kelce Brothers – Travis and Jason – KC
    3. Long Brothers – Chris and Kyle – CHI
    4. ???
    5. Kendricks Brothers – Eric and Mychal – MIN

  36. 36 CrackSammich said at 11:25 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Sammy Watkins is the half brother of Jaylen Watkins, Rams

  37. 37 Masked Man said at 11:38 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Thanks. That’s #4.

    What was the early season pair brothers?

  38. 38 Crus57 said at 11:53 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Garett and Brent Celek are #2, the Kelces are #1 I think

  39. 39 Masked Man said at 2:24 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Niners game. I forgot about that. Thanks.

  40. 40 Jernst said at 1:24 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Clerks brother plays for San Fran

  41. 41 anon said at 5:15 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Couple of thoughts (1) Pat Shurmur doing a great job in Minny, (2) both QBs suffered without a run game the latter part of first half was tough.

    Excited to have Darby back, best secondary we’ve had in a LONG time. Remember sconces and Fletcher?

  42. 42 wee2424 said at 6:16 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Yeah, the Sherminator is doing great in Minn. The only complaint that could be made is that he cost them a first round pick with the Bradford idea. They have to really regret that.

  43. 43 mtn_green said at 11:26 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Should ban you for mentioning them.

  44. 44 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:38 AM on November 25th, 2017:

    Admiral Akbar says, “It’s a trap!!! Bears 36 – Eagles 12. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/024e727206bc6b7505a4cb484adb45361b6a0b1200f5bf9c91a25d7079393062.jpg

  45. 45 wee2424 said at 6:14 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Love it.

  46. 46 mtn_green said at 11:25 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Nope. I’ll bet Doug has a new play just for the bears. They added a practice squad player from bears just in time to write a new play.

  47. 47 RC5000 said at 1:06 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Merry Christmas Chip! L.A. bound!

    Former Oregon coach Chip Kelly has been named the next head coach at UCLA, agreeing to a five-year contract worth $23.3 million with a $9 million reciprocal buyout, the school announced Saturday.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21553415/chip-kelly-returning-college-football-head-coach-ucla-bruins

  48. 48 daveH said at 1:43 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Buyout clause ..

  49. 49 wee2424 said at 1:58 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Went back to where he belongs.

  50. 50 Julescat said at 2:06 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    hopefully the game hasn’t passed him by

  51. 51 daveH said at 4:46 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    His picture creeps me out

  52. 52 Guy Media said at 7:55 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Good for him, but he remains a hated figure who I hope fails until he makes a full apology to Philadelphia.

  53. 53 kajomo said at 9:11 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Who owes us more of an apology, Chip or McDermott?

  54. 54 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:20 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Chip. McDermott was in over his head. turned out he knew what he as doing, just wasn’t prepared to fill JJ’s shoes. Who was, really? Chip was an arrogant prick who failed to appreciate the talent on his team and decimated it with stupidity. Chip all day.

  55. 55 Guy Media said at 9:22 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Chip. McDermott never wrecked the roster, just coached half of it poorly and with a high level of unearned arrogance. Chip did everything wrong.

  56. 56 SteveH said at 6:19 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    I scarcely remember that we play tomorrow. This is what happens when you start taking opponents for granted. It feels like Chicago should be hardly more than a speed bump on our way to the NFC East title. Hopefully the team isn’t falling into the same trap I am.

  57. 57 ColorSgt said at 6:28 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Doug has this team focused. They have yet to show signs of falling into a trap while playing lesser opponents. Hopefully that continues.

  58. 58 Guy Media said at 7:54 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Yeah, this team has evaded several traps.

  59. 59 Guy Media said at 7:54 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    What a fun game to analyze. The only real gripes were not enough running in the first half and allowing piece of shit Alfred Morris to get anything more than negative yards per carry. Awesome game all around.

  60. 60 kajomo said at 9:10 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    This team doesn’t seem capable of falling for a trap game. They are so focused. I’ve never felt that way about any eagles team before

  61. 61 Steag209 said at 10:12 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Hey, random question, anyone know when the field opens on game days? We flew in for the game but I haven’t found a definitive answer online. This is only my second time being in philly and going to a game.

  62. 62 Guy Media said at 10:26 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    “Gate Opening Times The HeadHouse Plaza, located at the North end of the stadium, will generally open three (3) hours prior to Eagles games. Club and Suites will typically open two (2) hours prior to the scheduled start of the game. Inner stadium gates will open an hour and a half (1 ) prior to the start of the game. For specific event information, log on to http://www.LincolnFinancialField.com for a complete schedule of gate opening times or contact our Guest Services Hotline at (267) 570.4400.”

    This is from the team’s web site.

  63. 63 Insomniac said at 11:13 PM on November 25th, 2017:

    Is it wrong that I’m more hyped for the Saints and Rams game tomorrow?

  64. 64 Ryan Rambo said at 12:39 AM on November 26th, 2017:

    Speaking of….would you start Brees vs them in FF?

  65. 65 Insomniac said at 4:20 AM on November 26th, 2017:

    Of course unless you have a better option, the Rams defense is good but not great.