Are the Kids Alright?

Posted: February 20th, 2018 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 121 Comments »

The Eagles have some interesting decisions to make at several spots on the roster. One of the key issues with these decisions is youth vs. experience. If you have been paying attention over the past two years, you can see that Doug Pederson isn’t afraid to take chances on young players.

The most notable decision is whether to go with Jason Peters or Halapoulivaati Vaitai at LT. There is no question that Peters is the better player, but circumstances matter. Peters is 12 years older than Big V. Peters is also coming off injury and vastly more expensive.

Whoa, based on that you can’t go with Big V. The problem is that I don’t fully trust PFF so I don’t fully trust those numbers. Also, numbers need context.

There is no question that Big V struggled at times. He played RT as a rookie and the Eagles had him spend more time at LT last spring and summer. He still split reps and was being trained as the swing tackle. Vaitai hit the field in the middle of Game 7 and then became the starting LT the next week. There were some ugly games in there, but Vaitai did get better as the season went along. His run blocking took a huge leap forward.

Vaitai played his best game in the NFC Championship, when he shut down DE Everson Griffen. That one game doesn’t mean he’s ready to be a stud LT any more than struggling vs Seattle means he can’t be a starter.

We have to be accurate in evaluating him now and also looking forward. Vaitai was an effective starting LT. He started 12 total games and the offense scored 31 or more points nine times. The offense had six games of more than 415 yards of offense. That doesn’t happen if you don’t have a functional LT. Oh yeah, the team also managed to win the Super Bowl.

Vaitai showed progress during the season so it is reasonable to assume he will improve if he spends a full offseason training to be the starting LT. There is a real argument to be made for bringing back him at LT and Stefen Wisniewski at LG to have as much continuity as possible on the O-line.

What is Vaitai’s ceiling? That’s a much tougher question. It certainly isn’t anywhere close to Peters level of play. I like Vaitai and think he can develop into a good starting LT, but Peters is a special player. He’s got an outside shot at the Hall of Fame.

You can bet that Pederson, Howie Roseman, Joe Douglas, Jeff Stoutland and Eugene Chung will have some long talks about the LT situation. This would be the perfect time to move on from Peters, but there is the risk that Vaitai will flat-line and stay about where he is now. Peters could come back and play at a high level for another couple of years. Vaitai in his prime might not match Peters on the decline.

The X-factor here is Peters the person. He’s close with Jeffrey Lurie. Peters is respected by all of his teammates and the coaches love him. It would be hard to release or trade him. Pederson already said that Peters will be his LT in 2018, but that was very premature. You can’t ignore the business side of things. The Eagles are over the cap and Peters is set to make $10.67M each of the next two years. Vaitai is about $10M cheaper.

Big V is just one of several young players the Eagles must figure out. Teams love to go with young players because they have a future and they are cheaper, but the Eagles decision-making has to be affected by the fact they have a chance to pursue greatness. They just won the Super Bowl and have a chance to win another. Do you cut Torrey Smith and give his job to Mack Hollins? Is Hollins ready for that role and that kind of pressure?

The Eagles aren’t naive. They saw how Isaac Seumalo failed to handle LG this year. That won’t stop them from taking chances on young players, but you can bet they’ll have options behind those guys. Wiz proved to be a key player for the Eagles.

It is going to be interesting to see how things shake out in the next couple of months. I don’t envy some of the decisions that Howie and Doug have to make.

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121 Comments on “Are the Kids Alright?”

  1. 1 kajomo said at 8:58 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    First Jason LaCanfora (Howie’s buddy) says the eagles will explore trade options for JP and now this article from Tommy. If Daniel Jeremiah hops on this bandwagon he must be gone.

  2. 2 Mac said at 12:02 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Is Joe Banner in the FO again?

  3. 3 eagleyankfan said at 9:37 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I know I’m in the minority on this opinion (as some have discussed with me in the past) — team leaders — locker room leaders — voice of the team….blah blah…bullsh1t on that. You don’t keep a guy because he’s a ‘good guy’ and ‘he’s well liked’. Remember when most here never thought the Eagles would recover letting Avant go because ‘he was well liked, team leader blah blah blah’…..You try and keep Peters because he’s a stud. You don’t only keep V because ‘oh, they won a SB with him’. IF that were true — well, Foles is our starter next year because — he won a SB as QB. Either way though – I have full trust in all decisions the coaches(etc.) make. Winning a Superbowl does that — all decisions are perfect now, skies are sunnier and PBR tastes better(ok, crossed the line with that)

  4. 4 Bert's Bells said at 10:40 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I agree.

  5. 5 or____ said at 11:14 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I think the play on the field matters first and foremost, and second and secondforemost, and third too… But when you have a good guy there – serious quality on the field, maybe decaying due to age a bit – AND he’s a true locker room leader etc…. that has to get factored into his overall value assessment which is the whole thing you deal with the aging quality vets.

  6. 6 Westpaceagle said at 1:53 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Team chemistry isn’t the only thing, but it matters quite a lot. Ultimate team game and you can’t just load up with talent and expect it to work out. The list of uber talented teams that imploded is long indeed. I seem to remember a dream team one year…

  7. 7 Philadelphian said at 9:50 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I think one of the problems at LT is we find ourselves always making a comparison to Jason Peters. The fact is a guy like Peters doesn’t come along often. Even Tra Thomas, a former first round pick, was one of the better LTS. What we should be doing is trying to find out how difficult it is to find someone better or even as good as Vaitai. We need to remember Vaitai was a only a 5th round pick. That could mean either he’s limited talent wise or needs more time to develop. It helps that a guy like Jeff Stoutland is apparently a very good teacher.

  8. 8 ChoTime said at 1:54 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I look at it differently. There are a limited number of game-changers in the NFL. The strategy is to get those guys on your team and put them in the position of being able to use them to disrupt the other team. You don’t necessarily “get” to choose to have one of the very best LTs in the league. You don’t necessarily “get” to choose to have one of the best RBs in the league. I would like to replace Peters with a guy just as good as him, but such a person may not be available or even exist.

  9. 9 Philadelphian said at 3:27 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I’m not sure we are looking at things differently. Peters is one of the greatest of all times and continued playing at.a high level before his injury. We don’t yet what type of impact that injury had on his 38 year body. If there wasn’t an issue with the cap it would be a no brainer just wait and see, but I don’t know if the Eagles have that luxury.

    Also, I don’t believe under the circumstances it’s unrealistic for Peters to accept a pay cut.

  10. 10 bdbd20 said at 9:55 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I imagine Lurie will have input on guys like Peters, Graham, and Foles. Howie could get really creative with their contracts and keep them around.

    I would think Lurie, Howie and Foles will talk at some point regarding where he would like to go, if he does want to go.

  11. 11 Bert's Bells said at 10:39 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    “Do you cut Torrey Smith and give his job to Mack Hollins?”

    Yes.

    What do I win?

  12. 12 Corry said at 10:50 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I like Torrey Smith the person, but when you’re $10 M over the cap and have a player making $5M with no penalty and easily replaced production, it’s a no brainer to cut him.

  13. 13 P_P_K said at 10:52 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    Especially with Hollins in the wings.

  14. 14 or____ said at 11:12 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    I agree about Hollins. But I think also Macrus Johnson (to a lesser degree).

    Especially with a very effective running game and Ertz, we don’t need to mess around with – clearly not significantly better than replacements – types on offense.

  15. 15 Bert's Bells said at 11:38 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    Smith was an effective 5th option down the stretch after being an inconsistent 5th option during the year.

    Pretty much a replacement level player.

  16. 16 or____ said at 12:10 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    agree

  17. 17 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:23 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    A seat on the bandwagon. Its kind of crowded, so be happy.

  18. 18 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:44 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    They only save $4 million by cutting/trading him. I’d keep him but he needs to know that there is open competition for that spot in training camp.

  19. 19 P_P_K said at 10:54 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    The window to winning an additional Super Bowl is open right now. It’s a lot more open with Peters at LT. Sign both guys, give Vaitai snaps during the season for experience and to keep Peters healthy so he can kick butt during the playoff run.

  20. 20 tag1555 said at 11:36 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    Griffen was a terror in the first half of the season, but noticeably cooled off after getting plantar fasciitis (foot injury) in late October. I’ve read that this kind of injury can really affect a speed rusher DE type, so while Griffen was functional by the time of the NFC Championship, it may not have been quite the trial-by-fire for Vaitai that it would have been earlier in the year.

  21. 21 FrenchEagles said at 11:43 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    “He’s got an outside shot at the Hall of Fame.”

    If Peters does not enter into the HoF, I don’t know what a Tackle needs to do to enter in it….

  22. 22 DustyRyder71 said at 1:37 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    That jumped out at me too. He’s one of the all time greats. HoF lock.

  23. 23 Duracell said at 3:52 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Yeah, I was under the impression that Peters was a first-ballot lock.

  24. 24 RC5000 said at 4:10 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I think Tommy was making a joke and was trolling you!

  25. 25 RC5000 said at 11:43 AM on February 20th, 2018:

    https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/965936987948625920

  26. 26 or____ said at 12:08 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Well here we Groh.

    I like it.

  27. 27 Crus57 said at 2:14 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    The idea is starting to Groh on me.

  28. 28 or____ said at 4:11 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I like his Grohwth mentality.

  29. 29 Mac said at 12:09 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Peters, Smith, Sproles… very different players with different qualities. But the only decision that even requires thought is on Sproles (whom I would want back). Peters is a must retain type, Smith is a prime candidate for the revolving door, and Sproles is a tough call.

  30. 30 Duracell said at 3:54 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    If we can get Sproles back on a minimum deal purely as a returner, then I’m all for it.

  31. 31 Mac said at 5:18 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I’d love to see him get the records he’s chasing in Midnight Green.

  32. 32 RC5000 said at 12:11 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    https://twitter.com/PHLEaglesNation/status/965990004341268480

  33. 33 bubqr said at 12:16 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    No surprise

  34. 34 RC5000 said at 12:19 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    So who’s gonna be the wrs coach? Trent Miles is logical. He was WRs coach at ND, Stanford & a college head coach at Indiana State and Georgia State.

  35. 35 Ryan Rambo said at 3:24 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Foles

  36. 36 Ryan Rambo said at 12:17 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Eagles promote Mike Groh to offensive coordinator

    https://247sports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/Bolt/Eagles-promote-Mike-Groh-to-offensive-coordinator–115337543?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=180220_110719_Philadelphia%20Eagles%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=06-E4-1B-C5-AE-B2-28-C0-15-C7-B2-33-2E-30-FA-D1180220_110719PhiladelphiaEaglesNewsletter

  37. 37 Masked Man said at 12:54 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Mike Groh is the best candidate as far as internal hires go IMO. Son of the great NFL coach Al Groh, Mike was an OC before in college and has proved himself to be ready for OC during the course of last season.

    Hope that Duce will remain an Eagles coach for a long time. He’s a fan favorite. But Duce could easily gain some OC experience at the college level if his ambition is to qualify for pro OC and eventually pro head coach.

  38. 38 Sean E said at 12:57 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    *Cut Smith
    *Cut Peters (sorry but we have to)
    *Restructure Curry
    *Redo BG’s contract
    *Trade Foles for a 1st, or keep him since Carson isn’t going to be ready week 1
    *Re-sign Sproles for small contract
    *Cut Celek

  39. 39 Ryan Rambo said at 1:15 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I would rather cut Curry than Peters. D-Line is deeper than O-line.

  40. 40 Sean E said at 1:23 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    It’s true that D-line is deeper, but when you have a surplus of talent on the D-line, at least you can use it, by rotating the players. The LT is just going to be the LT. I love Peters but he’s old, we are over the cap, he has a huge cap hit with no penalty of cutting him, and he’s had a harder time staying healthy the past few years. Tough call but IMO an easy call.

  41. 41 Ankerstjernen said at 5:53 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Cut/trade curry, keep Peters. Seriously, Curry is severely overpaid for his production, makes more cash than Peters and is ‘just’ a rotational guy. Peters on the other hand was the best LT fixture in the league until he got hurt last year, is a franchise icon and amazing locker room leader, and with 10 mill/year is definitely not overpaid. If he can come back, you keep him around for the repeat attempt. Let Vaitai be the backup, you need a functional one of those too. Don’t fuck around with the chances we have this year of going back to back.

  42. 42 GermanEagle said at 6:00 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Sorry I stopped reading after your second line.

  43. 43 Sean E said at 6:53 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I mean it’s not like I’m saying “Yes, Peters is gone, woohoo!”

    I even apologized!

  44. 44 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:30 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Thank you, Mr. Banner. You may go back to Cleveland now.

  45. 45 Corry said at 1:37 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Thought you guys would enjoy this:
    https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/966009058988785668?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E2

  46. 46 Bert's Bells said at 1:46 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    That TD bomb to Alshon is so pretty.

  47. 47 A_T_G said at 2:02 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Maybe other coaches do it too, but the way he talks to each player as a person and in a different way is such great leadership. Watch in the first 30 seconds when he talks to Ertz, Goode, and Jenkins before the game or Cox and Foles at the end. Players are not chess pieces or interchangeable parts to Doug.

  48. 48 Corry said at 2:14 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I think what makes Doug unique is that he’s a players coach who has maintained his position of authority and seems to have the respect of his players.

  49. 49 unhinged said at 5:35 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    What impresses me so much is how he sees a perfectly executed play for long yardage or a TD, and he doesn’t take an eye off of his play chart. When he announced that he would be calling plays, I thought that could be a plan to be revisited, but I think his play calling was critical to winning that game.

  50. 50 Dave said at 3:49 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Emotional Intelligence!

  51. 51 laeagle said at 2:09 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    It’s raining here in my onion cutting room

  52. 52 P_P_K said at 2:22 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    EnJOY.

  53. 53 ACViking said at 2:40 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    At the 3:08 mark . . .

    Schwartz looks dejected as he shakes his head side to side . . .

    And right behind him is BBD saying:
    “OK, offense, we gotta keep playing . . . gotta keep scoring . . . gotta keep playing.”

    The defense was helpless. As was the Pats’ D.
    BBD on fire, though.

  54. 54 Bert's Bells said at 2:43 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Defense wins championships?

  55. 55 Philadelphian said at 7:14 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Yes, but in the Super Bowl it was the offense that won.

  56. 56 Bert's Bells said at 7:47 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I applaud you sticking to the conventional narrative despite the empirical evidence to the contrary.

  57. 57 Philadelphian said at 1:24 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    How’s that? With possibly the exception of Kirk Cousins, and the jury is still out on how good he is, good QBS and even some over the hill QBS (see Eli Manning twice) either did well against Schwartz’s defense from the beginning or eventually figured it out.

    The good statistics achieved by the defense were mainly against guys like Beathart, Osweiler, Carson Palmer, and Trubisky.

    The only other good QBS the defense played half decently against were Ryan and Newton. Ryan had to throw into the same strong wind Foles had to deal with and Newton was still passing erratically because he hadn’t completely recovered from shoulder surgery.

  58. 58 Philadelphian said at 7:13 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I believe there was one big difference between the defenses, at least in the second half. Just compare the Eagles final TD drive with the Patriots TD drives. Patriots receivers were too often wide open, while the Eagles receivers were usually well covered. During the last Eagles TD drive, the Patriots stopped the run and were applying more pressure on Foles, especially Harrison going up against Vaitai. Fortunately, for the most part, the OL made the necessary plays and Foles was making perfect passes to covered receivers.

    First, you had the 4th and 1 to Ertz, that was a pefectly executed pick play with Foles under pressure. Next, Foles was force to roll out, because of pressure from Harrison, and he made a perfect pass to Agholor who made a fantastic catch for a first down even though he was well covered. Then, Foles, with great protection, threaded the needle for a perfect pass to Agholor between three defenders. The TD pass to Ertz was well executed, but even then the defender had coverage but slipped because of a great move by Ertz.

    I know I have been getting a lot of flack for my criticism of the defense, but where many only cite the Super Bowl as an example, I go all the way back tok the Seattle game. My argument continues to be based on my belief that any decent QB has figured out what the defense does and unless there is an overwhelming pass rush the defense struggles.

    Many like to point to Oakland, Dallas (2nd game), Atlanta and Minnesota games as examples of where I’m wrong, but I have begun to believe that the weather not only affected Foles in the Raiders, Cowboys, and Falcons games, but helped our defense as well.

    The defense was aided in the Vikings game by the fact that Kennum has flaws against pass pressure and the defense took advantage of what they saw the Saints do the previous week.

  59. 59 FairOaks said at 2:45 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Don’t think we can cut Peters. I think he’s going to have 4.5 million of his salary guaranteed due to injury so not sure the cap savings are worth it. 2019 another story.

  60. 60 Fufina said at 3:02 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    We shouldn’t cut Peters anyway. He is cheap at $7mil for 2018 compared to his 2017 production and is a great leader on and off the field.

  61. 61 Dave said at 4:20 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Beats and other Philly personalities on Twitter seem to be sore with Duce not being named OC. I’ve seen suggestions that Doug needs to cross-train Duce to coach QBs so he can move up the ladder.

    Doug (a former QB) just won a Superbowl with a backup QB in his 2nd season with former college QBs serving as his OC, QB coach, WR coach, and assistant QB coach.

    Now his OC is a former QB and his QB coach is a former QB.

    I love Duce, but Pederson’s job is to put the team in the best position to win, not put a RB coach in the best position for a promotion.

  62. 62 Dave said at 4:47 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I stand corrected.

    https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/966061894707634176?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E0

  63. 63 P_P_K said at 4:49 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    The FO must surely know Duce is disappointed not being named OC. If this new title really means something and/or comes with a raise, I’ll call it a classy move.

  64. 64 Dave said at 4:55 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I assume from an Xs and Os standpoint, Duce isn’t on the same level as Groh. But as far as organization and management, he is ready to lead.

    Reminds me of Harbs.

    Listening to those clips from Blount going around from the NFL Network, he could not of spoken more glowingly about Duce.

  65. 65 Masked Man said at 8:42 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Now Duce can look over Doug’s shoulder and learn that passing game stuff to build his experience up.

    Kudos to Doug, Howie and Mr. Lurie for letting it unfold that way. Very cool indeed.

  66. 66 Dave said at 8:51 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I actually took it as the opposite. Doug is going to delegate some management/head coaching duties to Duce which will allow Doug to take a more hands on approach to the offensive game plan.

  67. 67 Masked Man said at 9:00 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Either approach is fine with me. Duce has been valuable and loyal for 7 seasons. This has been his finest coaching year.

    Three big challenges in Ajayi, Blount and young Clement. Duce made them all blend, work together and excel. No drama. No let downs. Got the rookie up to speed, kept Blount focused and positive, moved “problem guy” Ajayi in at mid season and took the league by storm with it.

    I’m glad the Eagles worked it out this way. Honestly, they have kind of blown me away with this solution. It works all around. Go EAGLES!

  68. 68 Mac said at 5:17 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    #Titletown

  69. 69 RC5000 said at 5:25 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Cool. Suck it Masked Man haha and any other Duce as assistant head coach haters if you don’t like it. Give Dougy the benefit of the doubt.

  70. 70 Masked Man said at 6:20 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Can’t do it RC. Duce is popular. But you can’t slam him into a big job like that without the right experience.

    Most guys coach some college to broaden their experiences. Duce will have to choose to leave the nest and improve his career options, or else stay comfy in the nest and coach RBs his whole career.

    Can’t have it both ways though. Doug and Howie want to win. Not mess around training Duce on the job the next TWO years. No head coach has time to waste helping Duce gain experience.

    I’m a Duce supporter. But I’m an EAGLES supporter ahead of all that.

  71. 71 Masked Man said at 8:39 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Hey RC! I stand corrected!

    And I’m all for it. Mike’s the OC. And Duce has a job where he can look over Doug’s shoulder and gain some experience while he’s still doing some great coaching in the RB room. Works for everybody! He’s been a very good soldier and he deserves it.

    As long as the OC stuff is done by experienced guys. What a great organization to give Duce an opportunity like that.

    When Duce interviewed for head coach in 2016 I predicted – Duce will be the next head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals! Mark my words.

    Go EAGLES!

  72. 72 RC5000 said at 8:44 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Haha I was messing with you.

  73. 73 Masked Man said at 9:04 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    The Eagles are messing with me too!
    They exceeded my expectations of what they could here once again. Hahaha.

  74. 74 MysweetBrick said at 4:24 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Outside shot at the Hall of Fame? He is a 9-time Pro Bowler. Canton awaits.

  75. 75 unhinged said at 5:07 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Mark Schlereth and Colin Cowherd have no doubt that JP is going to HoF.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7phAPjLz6E

  76. 76 unhinged said at 5:22 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    After listening to Schlereth and Shannon Sharpe talk about how difficult it is to win back-to-back SB’s, the injuries to JP, CW and Jordan Hicks could be a sliver lining next season. It probably wouldn’t hurt if Long and Blount happen to be here as well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L04qgFoXvrE

  77. 77 RC5000 said at 5:40 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Maybe Sproles will sign cheap too.

  78. 78 daveH said at 8:09 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Have always thought that a few games missed during the season can help in several ways .. just as you mentioned

  79. 79 Masked Man said at 8:33 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Hey Dave!
    About Juan Castillo…
    I believe he’s the O Line Coach in Buffalo now.
    Can’t keep a great O Line Coach down!

  80. 80 Ankerstjernen said at 5:45 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    This is where I like to remind everybody that the Cowboys are set to pay Tyron Smith 17 million dollars against the cap in 2018. Which is the most of any tackle in the NFL by a fairly huge margin. Lolz. (He also has cronic back issues btw.)

  81. 81 unhinged said at 6:04 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    The Jaguars would have probably cut Blake Bortles instead of paying him $18 million next season. But Bortles had to have surgery, and if he cannot pass a physical by March 14, the Jags will cough up $19 million. That just…wow.

  82. 82 Dave said at 7:32 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I don’t get it, according to this Twitter account (which is a must follow), he is one of the greatest QBs ever.

    https://twitter.com/BortlesFacts/status/960353380823715841?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E0

  83. 83 Dave said at 7:30 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    They’ll also have DeMarcus Lawrence on the books for a minimum of $17M next year, assuming they tag him. Hopefully they sign him to a huge contract with a ton of guaranteed money…BTW, he had 2 back surgeries and has chronic back issues too;-)

  84. 84 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:34 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    This is why Jerry Jones is one of my favorite owners of all time.

  85. 85 Ankerstjernen said at 7:20 AM on February 22nd, 2018:

    How can he not be, right? Come on Jerrah, hire some more wife beaters and drug addicts. (Who should, of course, all then be suspended forever.)

  86. 86 RC5000 said at 5:54 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Should Birds look at released LB Jerrell Freeman or nah? He’ll be 32 and be out first two games for a suspension..

    He’s got issues like Lane but maybe they can get him really cheap. Don’t know if he’d be willing to backup Hicks.

    Freeman performed well early in his Bears career, compiling 110 tackles in 12 games, but he was suspended four tilts for PED use in 2016. The 31-year-old played just one game in 2017 before heading to injured reserve with a pectoral injury.

    Freeman was then popped for another PED violation, leading to a 10-game suspension. He will serve the final two games of that ban at the start of the 2018 season.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916797/article/transactions-roundup-bears-release-jerrell-freeman

  87. 87 kajomo said at 6:29 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    We need to restock the coaching pond. I’d like to see a WR coach and assistant RB and QB coaches added to the staff. If our sucess keeps up Groh and maybe Duce will be gone in 2-3 years

  88. 88 Insomniac said at 7:41 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Yea definitely need to restock. I wouldn’t mind seeing Doug bring in some former players as interns or something.

  89. 89 RC5000 said at 8:51 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I think Trent Miles is a strong candidate to be promoted to WR coach. The way you attract great candidates for offensive assistant can be to promote them. Then they can add an offensive assistant.

  90. 90 kajomo said at 9:03 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    That’s fine, but all these guys getting promoted were in our pipeline. We need to restock the pipeline so we have the next guys to promote.

  91. 91 D3FB said at 9:56 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I’d love to get the Oklahoma State WR coach. Experience in the NFL and college. Has been an NFL RB coach before. Just developed two WR that will go top 100. Will bring some concepts from an explosive passing offense.

  92. 92 Insomniac said at 7:43 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Mack Hollins will need competition from a vet or rookie. Don’t just hand the job to him just because there’s an opening. The same will apply to Sidney Jones as well. IMO, best man plays.

  93. 93 Mac said at 7:57 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Unfortunately, because we are in cap hell, the only player we can afford is Hank Baskett.

  94. 94 kajomo said at 8:11 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Omg we are not in cap hell. Cap hell is having a bunch of bad contracts. We have 21 of 22 starters signed. We have several aging vets who can be cut and several players who can restructure their contracts to make room. You need cap space when your team sucks to improve it. We have limited space because we have a championship roster.

  95. 95 Mac said at 8:22 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I agree (that was sarcasm hence the Hank Baskett reference)

  96. 96 Masked Man said at 8:29 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Upvotes for amusing Hank Baskett reference.

  97. 97 daveH said at 8:58 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Bet that Riley Coop could make the team over Hank B

  98. 98 Masked Man said at 9:13 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Yeah. Cooper last played football in 2014 as I recall. Baskett’s been out of the game maybe since Peyton Manning left the Colts. TV star now. Haha!

  99. 99 daveH said at 7:41 PM on February 21st, 2018:

    Think his last football move ever was his fumbled onside kick … wudny wish that on anyone

  100. 100 suthrneagle said at 9:51 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    We’re not in cap hell as long as Howie is in charge

  101. 101 Masked Man said at 8:28 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    I can take Hank Baskett.

    But I can’t take what goes along with Hank Baskett!

    Can I get Cody Latimer instead..?

  102. 102 A_T_G said at 10:39 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Surely you don’t mean his wife.

  103. 103 Dave said at 8:39 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    How can you get better if you never play? Rasul Douglas must wait for injuries to get playing time.

    Offense is another story. Ags was given three years to play to his ability. Semaulo was given a chance as well as Chance and Wiz. The team is better for it.

    Torrey was stealing snaps and hindering Mack’s development this season.

  104. 104 Insomniac said at 1:11 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    Well if he can’t beat out his competition, does he deserve to play?

    No clue why Mack couldn’t get least some of Torrey’s snaps and I was one of those guys banging the drum for Mack to start. I’ll roll with Dougie and say maybe he wasn’t ready.

  105. 105 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:42 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Said it before and I’ll say it again, the decision regarding Jason Peters is the most difficult and possibly the most important one of the offseason. There’s a strong case either way and I’m OK with either choice, but if they go with cut I really, really care that it be handled extremely well and let Jason Peters go with class and dignity.

  106. 106 ColorSgt said at 12:10 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    I 100% want to see how long he can keep playing. I hope he gets another ring this upcoming year playing in the SB.

  107. 107 RC5000 said at 8:55 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    OT Dolphins franchise tag Landry

  108. 108 RC5000 said at 9:23 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    The Year Of Endless Eagles Watching

    Watch every TD scored by the Eagles in 2017

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/philadelphia-eagles/0ap3000000916422/Watch-every-TD-scored-by-the-Eagles-in-2017?campaign=tw-share

  109. 109 P_P_K said at 9:56 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    What’s your favorite?

  110. 110 DustyRyder71 said at 10:44 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Wentz to Clement against the Skins. I love everything about that play.

  111. 111 P_P_K said at 8:26 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    That was incredible.

  112. 112 Ryan Rambo said at 9:25 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/504df69c36ea5c902da5f675a4a0662865

    Finally came in the mail today! What the hell! I ordered confetti too lol.

  113. 113 Masked Man said at 9:44 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    The Philadelphia Eagles continue to exceed all our expectations.

    1. Last spring the Eagles sponsored the best NFL draft ever in the history of the draft exceeding all expectations.
    2. Last off season Howie and the front office pulled together in an award winning team and roster building campaign including free agency and the draft exceeding all expectations.
    3. Carson Wentz had an MVP caliber year in his second year as a starter, once again exceeding all expectations.
    4. The Eagles captured the #1 seed in the NFC exceeding all expectations.
    5. Doug Pederson led the Eagles to defeat Bill Belichick and the Patriots in Super Bowl LII exceeding all expectations.
    6. Eagle QB was voted Super Bowl MVP exceeding all expectations.
    7. The Eagles resolved their coaching staff openings by promoting an exciting young coach, Mike Groh, to Offensive Coordinator, and in a surprise move by also promoting the deserving Duce Staley to Assistant Head Coach, and once again exceeding all expectations.

    Oh, and the parade was pretty cool too!

    Man, what a year! These guys are on a roll! Go EAGLES!

  114. 114 Ryan Rambo said at 9:44 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    https://youtu.be/6zaRIMo4rGM

  115. 115 Masked Man said at 10:12 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    ***** Eagles want trademark on “Philly Special” *****

    Posted by Josh Alper on February 20, 2018, 2:37 PM EST

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/20/eagles-want-trademark-on-philly-special/

  116. 116 Bert's Bells said at 10:39 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Booo!

  117. 117 A_T_G said at 10:46 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Better the Eagles get it before Porn Hub does.

  118. 118 or____ said at 10:55 PM on February 20th, 2018:

    Direct snap all to one side three way trick play surprise receiver?

  119. 119 Bert's Bells said at 9:31 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    I can only imagine that version involves a fat chick and a bad night in Manayunk.

  120. 120 Bert's Bells said at 9:33 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    But seriously, for all the whining Americans do about the Second Amendment they have no problem with economically powerful entities stifling the First with things like trademarks and eternal copyrights.

  121. 121 Fufina said at 11:49 AM on February 21st, 2018:

    Tommy i love your coverage but you consistently make mistakes when talking about cap.

    It costs the Eagles $7mil to keep Peters in 2018, and $8mil in 2019. Pro-rated signing bonus is a sunk cost, which while it affects the accountancy of the Cap it really isn’t relevant moving forward especially regarding cutting players, because that $6.3mil in pro-rated signing bonus will come off the eagles cap over the next 2 years regardless of if he plays or not.

    When talking about the cap you really need to look at the cash flows and guarantees rather than their Cap number.