More Senior Bowl Stuff

Posted: January 20th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 52 Comments »

I have posted some practice notes over at Scouts Notebook.

A few Eagles slants on things…

* I didn’t watch the South DBs very much. That practice was at a place where we were on the field. You judge the WRs/DBs better from sitting up in the stands when you can look down on them.

* S Craig Loston is growing on me. I’m not saying the guy is a stud prospect, but he’s been more impressive than I anticipated.

* I really wish Lamarcus Joyner was here. I’d love to see him in action. Joyner is a terrific player, but he’s small. I hope the Eagles are interested, but his size will be a serious test to “Big people beat up little people.” I think he’s one of those guys who is so good you ignore the size part of it.

* A few of you asked about why the Eagles would show interest in ILBs. I’ll cover that in a post.

* The Eagles are looking at big CBs. That’s what they like. And there are plenty of them in Mobile.

* Chip Kelly loves big players. I can see the Eagles loving DE Brent Urban. They did talk to him today. Seemed to be a player the scouts made sure to get hold of.

* They’ll be fascinated by Daniel McCullers, but I think he’s too passive for them. Instead of “More vioence!” Jerry Azzinaro will have to yell “Can I please have any violence!!!”

* No idea what they’ll think of LB Adrian Hubbard.

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Here’s my earlier post on players the Eagles met with.

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  • EaglesFan

    I too am intrigued by S/CB prospect Lamarcus Joyner. He was everywhere on the field for Florida State. I think he can play a Tyrann Mathieu role in the NFL (meaning playing basically every secondary position), but I think he’s more disciplined than Mathieu and is a better prospect.

    • Mac

      I would think Bill Davis would be very interested in a player like that.

    • Tom W

      Too short for chip and too much of a luxury for us just yet. Can’t play corner and we would only use him as a third safety in dime. Great player but not coming here

  • Mitchell

    Tommy:
    Reposted from earlier post:

    Request for keeping your eyes on closely:
    Kenny Ladler: (my 2014 man-crush)
    Attaochu: (obviously)
    Keith McGill: (specifically ball skills)
    Herron: (probably fastest wr there (4.3’s))
    Telvin Smith: (interested to see if he can cover well enough to be a S)

    • Tom W

      Luv McGill. Wanna see that big corner from the small school too. Think telvin could be interesting in 4th rd

  • TheRogerPodacter

    so i’ve been hiding away from football after the loss to NO so i must have missed it. i know some of the guys here were raising money to help send Tommy down to the senior bowl. how did we all do with that? i’m just curious to see how much of his trip we were able to finance! trip including PBR and junk food, of course.

    • TommyLawlor

      You guys did a phenomenal job. Paid for the whole trip, including a couple of Red Bull & Jack drinks I bought for Jimmy Bama. Eventually he wised up and switched over to PBR.

      Funny comment from an Eagles writer to me…:”You really do drink PBR.”

      • Corry

        But how much chocolate pudding have you consumed?

        • Andy124

          All of it.

          Or at least, that’s the answer I would find most acceptable.

      • TheRogerPodacter

        thats awesome!!!
        i’m hoping that we can do more of this as we get more people in the community here. i personally wouldn’t mind seeing more of this – more raising money to send Tommy to more places for better Eagles coverage!!

    • Baloophi

      This year’s Senior Bowl challenge was for 22 contributions (to match our draft position) and we readily achieved that mark. Hats off to everyone who helped get Tommy down to Mobile! Next year’s goal will be to raise enough money to bring him back.

      Also – as per weird new tradition – I will organize an annual fundraiser leading up to the draft, so there will be an opportunity for those who didn’t get a chance earlier and feel compelled to “chip” in. Ha! Ugh…

  • Steag209

    Interested to hear your take on the two Iowa LB’s James Morris and Christian Kirksey. I know only Kirksey is there but curious as to what position(s) you might see him/them projected toward.

    • D3FB

      Morris is just a fun player to watch. He reads his keys beautifully, passes on receivers in zone, comes up and pops linemen in the mouth, and has enough speed to chase plays to the sideline. If you had to give me just one players film to show a 12 year old how to play LB, it would be Morris.

  • SteveH

    I have done exactly 0 research on college players this year, so Tommy I’m relying on you to tell me what to think.

  • Media Mike

    PLEASE keep the Senior Bowl info coming Tommy. Having the best of the just about best of the seniors all battle each other provides valuable insight for the draft.

  • Media Mike

    I can’t believe anybody would really ask why the Eagles are looking at ILBs. We don’t have a good 3rd one, guys get hurt, and Meco isn’t that young. Why not draft a good ILB (with real size) in the 2nd or 3rd, and let him grow into an all-pro starter by 2016?

    • anon

      I thought Goode played pretty well when Kendricks went out. That said Kendricks and Meco basically played all snaps so maybe you’re right.

    • BobSmith77

      They don’t have any depth right now there really and have a couple of older guys (Cole and Ryans) who they could both use upgrades for if they are available. Stunned if the one of the first 3-4 Eagles’ picks wasn’t a LB.

  • Media Mike

    Loston, being from LSU, should have some type of idea on how to bring the violence. I’m also interested in seeing what Michigan State guys could work on our roster.

  • Media Mike

    Here is my most recent creation at first pick

    Round 1 Pick 22: Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 32 (SEA): Ahmad Dixon, SS, Baylor (A)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Craig Loston, SS, LSU (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 25 (S.D.): Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 26 (IND): Kenny Ladler, FS, Vanderbilt (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 29 (N.E.): Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss (A)
    Round 4 Pick 22: Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson (A)
    Round 4 Pick 32 (SEA): Isaiah Lewis, SS, Michigan State (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 5 (SEA): Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (A)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech (B)
    Round 5 Pick 29: Tyler Larsen, C, Utah State (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Jacob Pedersen, TE, Wisconsin (B-)

    • A_T_G

      So, SEA wins the SB, huh? That just takes all of the suspense out of it.

    • HipDaDip

      I feel very uninformed. Do we really have all those picks in rds 3-5 this year, or am I misunderstanding your post?

      • ICDogg

        It’s a game they have at first-pick.com, and the game involves both picking and trading, and the trades proposed are frequently ridiculous.

        • HipDaDip

          Ah thanks, you got me pretty excited though. Do we have one at 22 in each round except for the swap from rd 6 to 5?

        • Media Mike

          No way man, my trade down skills on there are a complete and total function of my mind control over 31 lesser GMs.

      • Andy124

        Using a draft simulator that allows him to trade back and acquire extra picks.

        • Andy124

          Well, apparently ICDogg had already answered. His post didn’t show for me until I refreshed later. Oops.

      • Media Mike

        Yeah, it’s from trading down using that web site. The game is very addictive. VERY.

    • Mitchell

      Gimme dat Kenny Ladler!!! I hope we trade down in the first though.

    • James Adair

      Awesome job! Well except for the Lewis pick, though you did have to pick 12… :) That would be a great draft.

  • Mark Sitko

    Thanks for all the notes Tommy – as always!

  • eagleyankfan

    this is great stuff!!!! I wouldn’t mind if you posted actual stats when you say people are “big” … 6’? 6’4? I’m not sure what constitutes big.

    • Maggie

      Varies with position. Safety or corner, 6’1″, 210 lbs. quick with great vertical leap and very good hands and can kill with a single tackle; Linebacker, 6’3″, 245 lbs. murderous tackler; DL, 6’6″, 280, but quick on his feet, at least 20 sacks per year, each; OL, 6’5″, 360 lbs, immovable in pass protection but can run like the wind on running plays.; RB, height and weight don’t seem to matter, as long as he follows his blockers, runs over linebackers, can catch a few screens and DOES NOT FUMBLE; TEs and WRs, over 6 feet, fast and will fight for the ball; QBs, 6’2″, 200 lbs. and quick thinkers who can throw the ball the entire length of the field, with 100% accuracy, lol.

  • Insomniac

    I would love to hear more opinions on the OL in the draft. Seantrel Henderson is reportedly already off of our board. Morgan Moses, JuWuan James, and Cornelius Lucas intrigues me. They all have Size and physical ability but haven’t put it all together yet.

    Another snowy day in Philly. I haven’t seen this much snow in awhile now.

    • Neil

      I didn’t think cadavers were used for any athlete. If what I read is correct about the durability of that, Maclin’s knee lasting that long is…a good outcome. Probably not a good initial procedure though.

      • SteveH

        A better job than whoever did Cornelius Ingram’s procedure to be sure.

        • Neil

          I should be clear I meant the initial decision to do the procedure using material from a cadaver.

          I won’t speculate on Ingram’s knees, since I have about the same qualifications as Dr Bo Wallace.

  • BobSmith77

    Tommy – Is there a ton of downtown at this type of event as a player? As a scout/reporter? How does it compare to say an early day of training camp? Love to see a post about it along with the usual insights and player observations.

  • BobSmith77

    My favorite stat on Belicheck and his insufferable whining after the loss on Sunday:

    “Before Spygate, Bill Belichick’s Patriots were 12-2 in the playoffs and
    3-0 in the Super Bowl. Since the taping scheme was discovered, they are
    6-6 in the postseason and 0-2 in the Super Bowl.”

    on a Boston.com article comment. Still a great coach but he comes off as a tough guy to like in his press-game conferences and dealings with the media.

    • SteveH

      He gets a pass on this kind of stuff because he is Belicheck, but I wonder how much longer he can do it or how much further he can take it before the media starts turning on him.

    • RobNE

      The Pats run the same play all the time. Belicheck said there was “no attempt to get open”. Of course not, Welker was the guy running the pick.

      Brady went off (mildly, but strong for him) in an interview about Sherman’s post game interview saying that isn’t the “Patriot Way”. When Blount did the Ray Lewis dance in the end zone in Baltimore, was that the Patriot Way?

    • ACViking

      It hasn’t helped (the argument goes) that Belichick’s never been able to replicate the defensive talent he had in the early ’00s.

      Jimmy Johnson couldn’t get to a conference championship in Miami with Dan Marino. While Belichick’s reached 5 AFC title games, and 2 SBs, in the 9 years since Spygate.

  • Insomniac

    We hired the QB coach that worked with Joe Webb in Minny. Not sure what to think of it lol.

    • A_T_G

      We hired a WR coach to coach QBs?! Didn’t we hear this song already?

      • Insomniac

        Juan more time!

    • RobNE

      If we end up with Webb and he wins us a SB, this website will implode.

      • Insomniac

        Shah8 would build a shrine for the guy. Heck I would too.

        • A Roy

          Are you sure he doesn’t already have one? Have you been to his home?

    • ACViking

      No worries.

      He’s the Offensive Coordinator who game-planned the Vikings’ shellacking of the Eagles in Week 14 this season — making Matt Cassel look like Tom Brady.

      On a more serious note, he worked with Matt Ryan for his first 3 seasons with the Falcons. Each year Ryan’s TDs increased and INTs decreased.

  • RobNE

    This new QB coach was a coach at UVA just like Lazor. I went there so I need to ask. How can all this NFL caliber coaching not translate to any wins on the field?

    • ACViking

      I’d speculate it’s the same recruiting problem from which Duke generally suffers in football. But not in basketball.

  • Tom W

    Love how each and every guy at every defensive position we have interviewed at ew game and senior bowl are tall big and long. I am driving Jeremiah attaboy the Nigerian nightmare bandwagon …. Too bad he is gonna climb from 3d round grades to late first round by draft time w a great 40 and amazing interview. Big time college production and good height and weight at senior bowl 6 3 252 shows he has been lifting and eating all season from 240 in preseason … Double digit sacks two yrs in a row. Dominated Georgia and Clemson and ole miss. Smart good god fearing kid who just started playing in high school. Played olb in 3 4 and d end in 4 3 under two different coordinators and dominated at both. Very quick and athletic. Downside I saw was needs to improve setting edge but has bend, great lateral movement, multiple pass rush moves, quickness, coverage ability, and very strong hand work …. If he runs around a 4.6 or insane 3 cone watch out. Luv in early second if we trade down w a qb needy team trying to get back in first rd for an extra 3d and 2d next yr