Early Free Agent Talk – WR

Posted: January 30th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 172 Comments »

I spent Sunday watching a lot of NFL tape to take a look at pending free agents. You have to be careful about focusing too much on stats and public reputations. They can be very misleading. After all, we are trying to find the right players for the 2017 Eagles

I focused on WR and CB, since I see those as the key FA targets. The Eagles can certainly look to add players in other areas, but those are the two that need the most help.

I split the FAs into tiers.

WR

Alshon Jeffrey
Terrelle Pryor

The top WRs who can hit the market. Jeffrey is one of the best receivers in the league. He doesn’t have elite speed, but uses his size and length to deliver big plays. The concern with Jeffrey is that he was suspended for 4 games in 2016. As we saw with Lane Johnson, suspensions can be devastating to a team. Pryor also comes with risk he is a 1-year wonder…because he has only been a full time WR for a year. But Pryor is a great athlete and showed the potential to be a special player. There are potential character concerns with him. Multiple opponents went out of their way to talk about how much they hated Pryor. That’s a bit unusual. Both players could be tagged or re-signed as both offenses need all the help they can get.

I think everyone has an idea how good Jeffrey is. Pryor has an even higher ceiling. He’s still learning how to play WR and will make some mistakes, but his combination of size, speed and agility is special. He could become a real weapon if he played with a good QB and had talented teammates around him.

Kenny Britt
Kenny Stills

Britt was once an erratic player that got in trouble. He hasn’t been arrested since 2012 and has become more consistent on the field. I watched several games of his. Britt is 6-3, 215. He runs well enough to be a deep threat. He is also good on slants and underneath routes. He plays to his size. Britt is a hands-catcher and I didn’t see any drops. He has good RAC ability and could help in the Red Zone. His numbers aren’t great, but he’s played in an awful offense. If anything, that’s good. It keeps his price down somewhat. The idea of signing Britt has grown on me quite a bit.

Remember when Carson Wentz tried to hit Nelson Agholor with a deep ball against Darius Slay? The result was a tad different than below.

Britt is also good in the RZ.  

Stills is also interesting. He showed promise for the Saints, but they traded him to Miami a couple of years ago. You always wonder why a team would trade away a talented, cheap young player. Stills has some size at 6-1, 194. He is a good deep threat, averaging 17 yards per catch for his career. He had a nightmare drop in the season opener (wide open for long TD), but generally seemed to have good hands. He isn’t as good as Britt, but is younger. Stills won’t turn 25 until April. Howie Roseman talked of wanting to add young players that could grow with Carson Wentz.

Britt and Stills make a lot of sense because they are good players, but won’t cost a fortune. The Eagles will have a solid amount of cap space after making some cuts, but can’t really afford to get into bidding wars for elite players.

Michael Floyd

Floyd has the talent to be a #1 receiver in the NFL and he’s posted some big numbers over the years. He struggled this year on the field and then got released after a DUI late in the season. Floyd is big and talented and won’t turn 28 until next November, but it is pretty telling that the Cardinals cut him the way they did. They could have held onto him in hopes of possibly landing a comp pick after losing him in free agency, but chose to get rid of him before the season was even over. That’s a red flag for me.

Brian Quick
Robert Woods
Kendall Wright
Terrance Williams

Full disclosure…Quick and I both went to the Harvard of the South…Appalachian State University. Obviously it would be nice to see a fellow Mountaineer on the Eagles, but this isn’t a homer evaluation. He is a player on the rise. Quick had a career year in 2016 (41-564-3). Put on the tape and you see a guy with a good combination of size and speed. He shows good hands. I think he can be a #2 receiver with better QB play and in a more functional offense. His numbers have to be looked at in context. The Rams offense has been awful in recent years.

Woods has never developed into the player Buffalo expected, but he is a solid player. He is at his best working the middle of the field. He knows how to get open and then has very good hands. He adjusts well to erratic passes. Woods is more quick than fast. He can play in the slot or outside. Woods will turn 25 in April and shouldn’t cost all that much to sign.

Let’s compare him to Mr. Agholor. Against Seattle, Woods caught 10 passes for 162 yards and helped his team almost pull off a big upset. Agholor failed to line up correctly and cost his team a TD. The Eagles need to get better at WR. That doesn’t mean every player has to be a dynamic weapon. One additional note on Woods…the Eagles did bring him to the NovaCare for a pre-draft visit. Chip was the coach, but Howie was the GM and he had a strong hand in which players were brought to Philly.

Wright is a small, but productive receiver. He hasn’t shown the explosiveness in the NFL that he showed at Baylor. He caught 94 passes in 2013, but has become more of a role player in recent years.

Williams is another Baylor product who has had an up and down career. He had his most efficient season in 2016, but has never played close to the level that was hoped when he was drafted in the 1st round. At this point he is purely a complementary receiver. A change of scenery might help him, but you have to wonder if there is any untapped potential left or if this is a case of what you see is what you get.

Kamar Aiken
Marquise Goodwin
Russell Shepard
Markus Wheaton
Marquess Wilson

Aiken was 75-994-5 in 2015, but has generally been a role player in his career. He has some size and speed, but isn’t special in any way. He could be good as part of a group of WRs.

Goodwin just had a career year at 29-431-3. He’s only 5-9, 183. Why would you have any interest in that guy? Because he is a world class sprinter. Goodwin has the speed to stretch defenses. He is still learning how to fully take advantage of the speed on the football field. Goodwin is 26 and could become a valuable role player on a better offense.

Shepard is a STer and WR. He just had his best season and is starting to emerge as a WR. He is strictly a role player, but has value because he can catch passes and cover kicks/punts.

Wheaton looked like a player on the rise after solid seasons in 2014 and 2015, but had a shoulder injury limited him to just 3 games in 2016. Wheaton ran a 4.45 at the Combine so he has pretty good speed. If his shoulder checks out, he could be a good bargain for someone.

Wilson is a boom or bust player. He has shown real flashes of talent, especially in 2015. But Wilson has only played in 31 of 64 possible games in his young career. Wilson will turn 25 in September so this is a young guy that might be worth rolling the dice on.

DeSean Jackson
Pierre Garcon

The Eagles talked about focusing on young players in free agency. Both Jackson and Garcon are above the age of 30. Jackson remains an explosive receiver and it is possible that the Eagles will overlook his age because of his speed, but I have my doubts.

Garcon will turn 31 in August. He is 6-0, 210 and would be of interest because he can be a volume receiver. Garcon has started 46 of the past 48 games. He averaged 73 catches a year in that span. Garcon isn’t an elite playmaker, but is a guy the QB can force the ball to on 3rd down. Think of him as a poor man’s Anquan Boldin.

So I have listed the top targets as far as I can tell. There are some other players, but they are either pure role players (Brice Butler for example) or guys on the wrong side of the hill (Boldin).

There is no “Gotta get that guy” guy this time around. Jeffrey is a really good player, but I would have mixed feelings if the Eagles did land him.

I think the Eagles need a pair of starting WRs. They could sign one in free agency and then spend a high pick on a receiver as well. They could also sign a pair of FAs. It would be great if the Eagles could add a pair of “weapons”, but that is likely due to finances.

Let’s say you add Kenny Britt to be your primary receiver. You already have Jordan Matthews as your slot guy. You need someone else for the outside. You could add someone like Robert Woods for that role. He’s not a weapon, but he is a reliable WR and that’s an upgrade on what Carson Wentz had last year.

It would be a lot of fun if the Eagles had speedy playmakers all over the place like the 1999 Rams, but that’s the anomaly. Most teams have a group of WRs that do different things. The Falcons have one elite receiver and role players around him. The Pats have a group that is hard to describe. Tom Brady makes them better than they are as individuals.

Washington has the possession guy (Garcon), speed guy (Djax), slot guy (Crowder), backup (Ryan Grant) and the rookie (Josh Doctson). Not all teams like such defined roles. Green Bay likes their players to be interchangeable and they built a group without 1st round picks or pricey free agents. Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams and Geronimo Allison are all talented and can do multiple things.

It will be interesting to see what the Eagles decide to do. There’s nowhere to go but up.

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Some of you have asked about the Antonio Brown situation. PIT is the kind of organization that isn’t afraid to move on from a good player, but I tend to think they will work things out with him. He and Big Ben have great chemistry.

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I owe a special thanks to all of you who donated money to help me pay for the trip to Mobile. Eagles fans are great and you guys are truly the best. Thank you very much.

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172 Comments on “Early Free Agent Talk – WR”

  1. 1 Early Free Agent Talk – WR - said at 3:28 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    […] Tommy Lawlor I spent Sunday watching a lot of NFL tape to take a look at pending free agents. You have to be […]

  2. 2 P_P_K said at 3:31 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    With the donations and what-not, I’ve been on a Tommy love fest lately. ‘Gotta continue because this is great write-up.
    Eagles should get Jeffery. He and Johnson can attend NA mtgs together.

  3. 3 Mac said at 4:55 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Maybe the Eagles could start hosting AA/NA meetings at the Linc.

  4. 4 P_P_K said at 6:10 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I’ll pay for the coffee if it gets Jefferey on the roster and he and Lane on the field.

  5. 5 Sb2bowl said at 4:04 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I don’t mind a 2nd-3rd tier guy according to the players you’ve listed; hell, I don’t mind DJax at the right price. But I do hope we draft at least 1 WR to grow with Wentz, along with one already established outside WR in free agency.

    Britt may not be a bad tutor for DGB- a guy that seemed to struggle with maturity and taking advantage of his physical talents who has made a positive transition into the NFL.

  6. 6 Mac said at 4:05 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Sign me up for Britt and Goodwin. I was skeptical on Britt in the past, but if he has his head focused on football, then I’d like to see what he can do with Wentz. Goodwin is a player I was fascinated with in the draft, and wouldn’t mind seeing how he’s developed. I’m also not opposed to the idea of giving Quick a chance, he’s an interesting player who was massively overdrafted by the Rams, but like Goodwin has interesting potential.

  7. 7 laeagle said at 4:08 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    “He hasn’t been arrested since 2012” is the most damning praise I’ve seen about a player in recent years.

  8. 8 laeagle said at 4:11 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Oh, and for the record, I’m all in for the Jeffrey/Woods combo. Trade Matthews, keep Ags and DGB, and add a rookie, Williams of possible or or, if not, one of the guys like Taywon Taylor or Zay whoever the whats his name was. That gives you some pretty solid firepower, with room for development. The rookie can develop and take over Woods’s role (who is probably only here on a 2-3 year contract). You’ve got the off chance that DGB or Ags could develop into a moderately competent receiver. And in the meantime, you’ve got productive starters.

  9. 9 Fufina said at 4:18 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I do not comprehend the Matthews hate from Eagles fans. He is a quality no.2 WR who in the right situation should put up 1000 yard 5-6 TD numbers, he doesn’t have great hands but plenty of 2nd tier wr’s don’t – Eagles drops were hugely frustrating but all teams have them and Matthews is not a league high drops guy.

    Our WR’s were bad last year, but part of that was Wentz, being raw, a rookie, and having zero chemistry.

  10. 10 laeagle said at 4:20 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    To be clear, I absolutely don’t hate Matthews. I think he’s a good player. I like him, I’ve always liked him. I still like him.

    But I don’t think he’s going to be re-signed. Too much money, but not worth it for us. If we sign Jeffrey and Woods, he’s DEFINITELY not getting re-signed. Hell, if we sign 2 FA WRs of any kind, he’s probably not getting re-signed.

    So, strike while the iron is hot. He has value now in a trade. He won’t next year. If our WR corps will be just fine without him, then move the asset now to get some worth.

  11. 11 Bert's Bells said at 4:27 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    If Matthews catches 70 plus balls in 2017, he’s re-signed. Lurie means business with giving Wentz what he wants. And if Matthews is a volume catcher for him, he’s getting paid.

  12. 12 aron said at 4:31 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    and the year before

  13. 13 Call Me Carlos the Dwarf said at 4:38 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    If he couldn’t put up 1000 yards in 2015 as the only real receiver in a pass-happy offense offense that inflates its players’ snap counts, why should we expect that to change going forward?

  14. 14 Insomniac said at 4:42 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    because he works hard.

  15. 15 Tumtum said at 4:47 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I mean the guy had 997 yards in 2015. We can cut him a 3 yard break.

    Despite that I think the most loyal JM supporters among us (myself at the time), were encourage that he would do so well in what would probably be a down year in a HOF career.

    After 2016 reality is settling in on him as a player. Nice, but nothing even close to special. Probably top 50 though…

  16. 16 Fufina said at 4:57 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    And as a sophmore WR with a new QB.

    Not to excuse Agholor, but Mathews/Ertz have yet to have a back to back season with the same starting QB, and they are not receivers who are going to get open by miles, they need a QB who will knows their game and has chemistry so when they break and get those 2-3 yards open the ball is already heading in their direction.

    Continuity and quality QB play elevates WR’s. Think Matthews best seasons are ahead of him.

  17. 17 Dave said at 5:57 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I don’t dislike Mathews or his game. After DeSean and Maclin though, we expect better from the teams #1 receiver. If Mathews was actually the #2 on this team, he would be much more revered. The problem is that for the past 2 years, Mathews has been the #1 guy and hasn’t played to up that.

  18. 18 Fufina said at 6:11 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    That’s not really his fault…. He did not ask for Chip to get rid of our entire vet WR core. He was not drafted to be a game breaker – so being frustrated he isn’t seems a little unfair.

  19. 19 Insomniac said at 6:13 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    A second round pick should be able to be a game breaker.

  20. 20 Fufina said at 6:24 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Well that is obviously not the case – plenty of really solid starter type players get picked in the 2nd round, who lack the tools to be an elite player.

    And regardless the ‘ceiling’ for Matthews is to be an elite possession receiver – a guy who gets 100+ catches a year. But those types of guys generally take longer to develop – they need to get open via craft and skill and experience rather than having speed to just burn themselves open. Combine that with lack of QB continuity (something vital for Matthews type players) means Matthews best should be in 2-3 years time with Wentz.

  21. 21 Insomniac said at 6:38 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    You’re not wrong about some high picks ending up just being solid but to call Matthews solid is stretching it too thin. Matthews was drafted ahead of a lot of quality WRs that have shown more promise and growth that Matthews hasn’t.

    To call him a possession WR is a travesty. He doesn’t have good hands and probably never will. You can blame his QBs all you want but the times where Matthews dropped a perfectly good pass has been more than the times where he made difficult ones. That’s not lack of chemistry, that’s simply lack of good hands. AFAIK, there hasn’t been an elite WR that doesn’t have good hands.

  22. 22 Fufina said at 7:10 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Well being a possession WR is not about hands, it is about being able to find soft spots in zone coverage, reading and exploiting underneath coverage and being a reliable outlet for a QB on a consistent basis.

    T.O had awful hands early in his career – and was never a natural catcher, but what he did do was grind himself into a reliable catcher.

    Lets put his drops in perspective – he has 17 career drops on 344 targets and 225 receptions, for a drop rate of 4.9%. He catches 65% of all passes thrown his way which is above league average. Would i like him to catch those drops? yes. Would i like him to toe tap better. But he is nowhere near the worst WR in the league when it comes to drops (although he is bad).

  23. 23 Insomniac said at 7:38 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Except it is about hands. Those guys reliably catch the ball and move the chains. They’re never the fastest, strongest, or biggest but they’re always open because of their hands. Going by your definition, an elite possession WR isn’t Cris Carter or Larry Fitzgerald but Maclin is. No one will ever agree with you on that.

    The drops statistic is highly flawed due to subjectivity. TO continued to have below-average hands but got by due to being a freak and refining his strengths. Matthews isn’t even half of what Braylon Edwards is and that’s the last good WR that had shaky hands to make a Pro Bowl.

  24. 24 Crazymike663 said at 9:46 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    If he had 5 less drops he would be “solid” maybe he has The agholer affect going on in his head.. but I would rather keep matthews and add some draft picks, Because we all know drafting is a crap shoot.

  25. 25 Dave said at 6:21 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I would imagine he sees himself as a #1 receiver.

  26. 26 Media Mike said at 6:42 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I don’t dislike Matthews at all, but you need to see him as what he is; a #3 because he can only function in the slot. That’s maddening given his size.

  27. 27 Dan said at 3:47 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Tell me the qualities a number two receiver should have? Be able to catch without a high number of drops. Misses the mark. Be able to have body control on the sideline? Misses the mark. Be able to get YAC? Misses the mark, partly cause he jumps flailing his legs when he catches the ball. Yes, he seems like a decent guy. Yes he works hard. These don’t make him good. I really don’t know what you see in him that makes you like him, right now he is only the best option of a bad bunch. Its like saying getting punched in the face is great when the other options are getting kicked in the nuts or stabbed in the gut.

  28. 28 Sb2bowl said at 4:29 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Makes for a helluva pickup line on Tinder, though

  29. 29 Tumtum said at 4:43 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    He does seems to have gotten his shit together. I am all for the second chance/redemption story. Have to repent first though Mr. Pryor!

  30. 30 Insomniac said at 4:35 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    IMO, the best way to go is Kendall Wright and a WR (or two) in the draft. Maybe pick up Goodwin after the draft if he’s still not signed.

  31. 31 Tumtum said at 4:36 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Pretty much agree with the list and assessment of the FA WR. Sad that Britt is kind of the most appealing of the bunch. Guy was the poster child for wasted talent not all that long ago.

    He hasn’t been arrested since 2012 and put together a couple solid seasons. Seems like he might actually have his shit together. I would be ok with giving him a shot for the right price.

  32. 32 GermanEagle said at 4:37 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I said it before and will say it again:

    Terrell Pryor will be a top 5 WR in the NFL in a couple of years time. #breakthebank

    However I also said that there’s probably a snowball’s chance in hell that the Browns will let him leave. So there’s that.

    Jeffery I could live with, but his suspension and soft tissue issue is a concern to me.

    The only other [realistic] WRs that would make me happy remain to be DeSean (@ the right price), Britt and Stills.

    And please hell no to Floyd. #yikes

  33. 33 Tumtum said at 4:41 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    You don’t care at all that he is a scum bag, bully, bigot?

  34. 34 Mac said at 4:51 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Are you talking about Pryor, DeSean, or GE?

  35. 35 GermanEagle said at 4:59 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Lol.

  36. 36 GermanEagle said at 5:00 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    As long as he’s not running for president in 2020 I could care less.

  37. 37 Tumtum said at 9:52 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Yeah, couldn’t see myself rooting for a guy like that. Much like I would of done if the Orioles signed Batista, I probably go on Eagles hiatus should we sign him.

  38. 38 Dave said at 5:54 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    If Prior is that much of an ass, I can’t envision a scenario where Wentz signs off to Howie and Doug to sign him to a big contract. I only bring this up because Howie said they would be getting Wentz’s input regarding free agent acquisitions.

  39. 39 anon said at 8:34 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    exactly

  40. 40 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 9:27 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I saw the Hartline “character” article but what about the bully and bigot stuff? Did I miss that somewhere?

  41. 41 Tumtum said at 9:49 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10824-terrelle-pryors-behavior-leaves-much-to-be-desired

    Maybe he doesn’t feel that way.. but umm…still less than desirable I would think.

  42. 42 Media Mike said at 6:43 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    No thanks on Pryor. I think he’s more likely to be out of the league than a top 5 WR.

  43. 43 Gary Barnes said at 4:44 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Fantastic post, Tommy. Thanks. Can someone let me know how to donate, I must have missed the posts on it, but would like to support Tommy too.

    I’m always cautious about FA due to the overpay nature of the process and the entitlement that sometimes brings with it (Sconces anyone?), but also because the Eagles have a very mixed track record over the years in getting the right fit and the right person.

    Obviously, the choice depends on the Eagles strategic vision and how they are planning to build the roster around Wentz, what positions do they believe are highest priority, how much cap space gets allocated to each position and what types of WR they believe are needed for this offense.

    Under Reid/Banner, QB, DE, CB and OT were the positions they valued most and allocated the most cap to on the roster. They had very good success with McNabb, Thomas, Runyan, Vincent, Taylor, Lito, Brown, Kearse, Douglas etc. I’d be interested to know people’s thoughts on whether those are still the primary positions on a roster or if S or MLB or C etc. have risen in importance since then. I think C is very important for example.

  44. 44 BlindChow said at 5:10 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    There’s a button towards the bottom of the right sidebar that says “Donate to Iggles Blitz.”

  45. 45 Gary Barnes said at 5:15 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Thanks!

  46. 46 Anders said at 5:37 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I still think Doug believes in that (Reid’s most drafted position in the 1st is DT)

  47. 47 bill said at 9:07 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    This offseason will be a good test, but my guess is that CB is going to be a devalued position in Schwartz’s scheme. They’ve invested fairly heavily in S. DL is important, but I bet DE isn’t as highly prized compared to DT – the wide 9 is supposed to help scheme guys who are more one-dimensional to success. LB is interesting, but they have to be effective at their roles – perhaps more emphasis than there was under Reid, but still not a priority.

    Offensively, it seem like Pederson is going to be more ball control than Air MorningReid was. He wants a FB – that’s a difference. Does that portend a difference at RB? Will they actually try to keep a bigger back on the roster? It’ll be interesting to see what style of WR they prioritize. Wentz’s strength seems to be intermediate, as opposed to deep. So do you get guys that help cover the relative weakness with burners who excel on the deep ball (Jackson), or do you emphasize Wentz’s strength with quick guys that excel at the intermediate routes? Or do you try to cover all bases? What do they do at TE?

    This offseason should start to answer some of those questions.

  48. 48 SteveH said at 5:35 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Stills makes the most sense to me. Young guy, no off the field stuff. Wouldn’t be a 2 or 3 year rental. Could be a building block guy for 5 or 6 years.

    Britt is 28, so that makes less sense, but he’s not as much of a speed guy as Stills so maybe he ages a bit better.

    If only there was a crystal ball that could say exactly when a guys ability is going to fall off a cliff.

    Desean coming back would be great but the big question is when does his ability start falling off, and does he qualify as a band-aid move? Can we count on him beyond the next 2 or 3 years? If the price is right should we do it anyhow? Having a guy of Desean’s caliber could open things up for everyone else and help Carson Wentz’s development… Possibly. I have to imagine he has the quarterback equivalent of PTSD after the mess he was throwing to this year.

  49. 49 Dave said at 5:52 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    The problem with Stills is that he’s going to want a sizable contract to be a #2 receiver. With that, what do you do with Mathews at the end of the season? Do you pay him more than Stills, or let him walk?

    That would be quite a bit of money tied up into #2 receivers if you keep him. If you let him leave as a free agent, that probably doesn’t send a great message to the team about valuing their own over free agents.

  50. 50 Fufina said at 6:19 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Well you need 3 starting WR’s in the NFL these days, and with Wentz being cheap for the next 4 years we can splash more on a WR core if needed.

    However this is why i would personally go after DeSean, you can get him on a 3 year deal which is really a 2 year one, and gives you time to try and draft and develop a WR or wait for the 2018 free agent class which is a lot better.

    Draft a WR top 3 rounds, resign DeSean. See how Matthews/Rookie/Wentz develops and if you see enough progress try to continue to build through the draft. If the pick is a bust go and splash mega free agency cash in 2018.

  51. 51 Dave said at 7:04 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I’m not sold on DeSean. He’s still a me-first jackass. With that being said, I wouldn’t be upset if he is signed since he is a jackass we know.

  52. 52 Fufina said at 6:28 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Also i am not sold on Stills as any kind of solution. Stills has managed 1166 yards in 2 years in Miami, and got traded by the Saints because they felt that they had far better options available. He gets deep and has a few splash redzone plays… but he has struggled to consistently produce and goes utterly awol in some games.

  53. 53 Tumtum said at 9:02 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I think Vinny Curry and Fletcher Cox showed the players that this team pays guys who they think deserves it.

  54. 54 Dave said at 9:15 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I would argue that JMatt is a better receiver than Vinny is a defensive end.

  55. 55 Tumtum said at 9:50 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    This season he probably was. Vinny had a rough year. He was pretty damn outstanding the 2 previous, granted in limited time.

  56. 56 wee2424 said at 11:44 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Celek.

  57. 57 Tumtum said at 8:56 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Still, Quick, wouldn’t seem half bad.

  58. 58 SteveH said at 5:47 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    How can so thoroughly a tepid player (until this past season) like Pryor manage to make so many enemies throughout the league? How much of a dick do you have to be to be terrible and still have the balls to piss everyone else off?

  59. 59 Media Mike said at 6:44 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Good question.

    And somebody posted a link on here a week or two ago explaining that Pryor’s stats are a mirage.

  60. 60 Mac said at 6:49 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    He disappeared from fantasy football when Cleveland’s top QB returned.

  61. 61 anon said at 8:34 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    haha “Top QB”? you mean RGIII?

  62. 62 Mac said at 11:12 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Thank you for getting the joke. 🙂

  63. 63 Stephen E. said at 4:43 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    There were 5 to choose from. Such an embarrassment of riches.

    Hmm, I guess with QBs, more isn’t better.

  64. 64 D3FB said at 9:45 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    He’s had a reputation for being insufferable dating back to when he was at Jeannette

  65. 65 A_T_G said at 9:13 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Appalachian State University, huh? I had always heard the Harvard of the South was Junior High School.

  66. 66 Dave said at 9:24 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Oh snap! Shots fired…lol

  67. 67 Sb2bowl said at 10:17 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    And my sister was the prettiest prom queen ever, what’s your point?

  68. 68 Bert's Bells said at 1:09 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    And in the Sourh, she’s also your prom date.

  69. 69 CrackSammich said at 2:19 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    And your aunt.

  70. 70 Bert's Bells said at 3:37 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    The Mississippi Threesome -only involves two people.

  71. 71 Sb2bowl said at 2:39 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    At least she knows where she’s going when I take her home ; – )

  72. 72 anon said at 9:31 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Texans hired former NFL WR Wes Welker as an offensive assistant. Have we considered going this route for coaching. Understand some players aren’t good coaches – but some guys, like Welker must have crazy knowledge about playing the position/running routes/preparing for a game/breaking down overages etc. I’d suspect a lot of these guys would just be happy to be around the game a little longer.

  73. 73 Dave said at 9:37 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Yeah, Greg Lewis. He was fired.

    Also Duce Staley.

  74. 74 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:40 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Isnt Lewis a WR coach in KC now?

  75. 75 Dave said at 9:42 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Yup, Andy hired him right after he was fired.

  76. 76 BobSmith77 said at 10:54 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Lewis got scapegoated for the junk they rolled out there this year and Roseman’s failure last offseason in failing to sign a single useful veteran FA WR (a point he for some reason escaped much criticism on).

    Roseman has nothing to do with Agholor and DGB was a shot in the dark I won’t fault Roseman on. Not signing a productive veteran WR though which this team desperately needed is completely on Roseman. Didn’t have a guy get out of camp.

  77. 77 anon said at 11:33 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    (a point he for some reason escaped much criticism on) – 100% there were a bunch of good guys that could have been had for not much money, the stills trade was great for Miami and he’s exactly the player that you want.

  78. 78 BobSmith77 said at 11:42 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Ditto the talk today on 97.5 I heard while driving over to NJ.

    They were talking about needing a pass rushing DE next year because Barwin is going to get cut & need to free up cap space. I was thinking to myself ‘what about the horrendous contract Curry got last year from Roseman which made him one of the higher paid DEs in the NFL?’

    Yeah Wentz/Bradford trade worked out quite well for Roseman (still lucky Minnesota made that deal) but the rest of his last offseason was a mixed bag yet again in FA with some huge misses and even successes (McLeod) who I didn’t think were great in terms of $ vs production.

  79. 79 anon said at 2:39 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    better to be lucky than good

  80. 80 anon said at 11:32 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    greg lewis is no wes welker.

  81. 81 Dave said at 7:41 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    You’re right. Lewis has several years experience as a coach, Welker has none.

  82. 82 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:25 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Not sure Im a fan of the Alshon plan. I still think he gets tagged or someone pays him a lot more than what we can anyway.

  83. 83 BobSmith77 said at 10:36 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Jackson is a very interesting use case of just how much Lurie is really involved in player personnel decisions.

    No NFL team (and especially this cryptic front office) is ever going to disclose who has exactly what responsibilities along with the extent to which an owner may or may not be involved in personnel decisions.

    If Jackson does come back here next year and it isn’t necessary a very reasonable & cap-friendly deal to the Eagles, my sense is that it is an indication Lurie is taking a more direct role in player personnel decisions.

    Basically part of him trying to rectify a former mistake (agreeing to release him for nothing), trying to recapture some of their former offensive firepower, and Lurie coming through on his promise he made to give Wentz the weapons he needs.

  84. 84 A_T_G said at 12:09 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    Couldn’t those same motives be ascribed to Howie?

  85. 85 BobSmith77 said at 2:04 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    They could but the Eagles aren’t going to come out and say either way.

    Guessing on an organization’s internal strategies and the rationale beyond them is always a bit of conjecture, suspicion, and assembling what pieces you can that are publicly available or in those grey spaces.

  86. 86 A_T_G said at 7:23 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I agree that seeing behind the curtain takes some inference. I am just disagreeing that Jackson should be viewed as a measure of Laurie’s involvement, since Howie gave pretty clear indications that undoing Chip’s changes is a strong motive of his.

  87. 87 Anders said at 3:54 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    “If Jackson does come back here next year and it isn’t necessary a very reasonable & cap-friendly deal to the Eagles”

    When was the last time Howie signed a contract he couldnt get out of easy?

  88. 88 PacificPurl said at 4:27 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    People still obsessing on Jackson. How horrible it was to turf him out. Notice the line above? Pittsburgh isn’t afraid to move a good player. 22 years making the playoffs. 6 rings. Maybe they do a lot of things right.

  89. 89 Tumtum said at 1:10 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I.E if we sign Jackson: time to panic?

  90. 90 BobSmith77 said at 10:48 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Can’t see them paying Jeffrey (he isn’t a Top 5 or even Top 10 WR but will certainly want to get paid at least that) or bringing in the headaches that Floyd or Pyror represent. I could see Floyd though posting some really monster n

    I’d go Britt over Stills but both guys are likely going to get paid decent money this year especially Stills. Always been a Garcon fan too although ideally he would be a #4 WR next year here.

    Still think CB is the most pressing need on this team because Matthews at least can be a solid WR option in the slot if healthy. This isn’t a starting-caliber CB on this roster right now including at the slot CB position.

    Can’t address both the need for multiple starters at WR and CB in the same offseason along with the other needs they have.

    I’d sign Stills and Garcon, hopes Matthews rebounds with a healthy year, and work on drafting a RB in the 2nd/3rd round who they can lean on & will be their go-to RB the next few years.

  91. 91 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 11:06 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Garcon might be older but he is still good. I dont see how he can be considered a 4th WR here or on most teams.

  92. 92 BobSmith77 said at 11:07 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    I said ideally. Here he would be a 2B even if they signed Britt & keep Matthews (2A/2A)

  93. 93 BobSmith77 said at 11:05 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Here is another question about WR – do the Eagles try to extend Matthews this offseason while his value is down a bit & get a cap-friendly deal?

    He clearly was Wentz’s go-to guy when he was healthy this year. I wouldn’t mind seeing that if the Eagles can get him to sign a deal that values him as a solid slot WR. Just don’t know enough comps to see what that would be.

  94. 94 anon said at 11:31 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    nah – i’d let him play it out – we’re already going to layer him with another WR or 2

  95. 95 eagleyankfan said at 7:30 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    “clearly was Wentz’s go-to guy” — was that a sarcastic statement? Let’s see, 4 bad wr’s and one who is OK. I’d imagine Wentz would throw to the best of the worst…..

  96. 96 BobSmith77 said at 1:24 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    It was a bit of tongue in cheek

  97. 97 Tumtum said at 1:09 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    This would be our best shot to sign him a deal close to his true value. I would totally be ok with that.

  98. 98 BobSmith77 said at 11:14 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    Roseman early on as the GM seemed to adopt the Banner metholodogy in that he didn’t want problem/off-field issues guys on the team. In Banner’s case that also applied to veterans who openly spoke up about what they were worth too at times.

    Last year in the draft, the Eagles deviated a bit from that on a few guys. Fascinating to see if Roseman is more willing to bend on the character issue to go after talent especially at the WR position with Floyd or Pryor.

  99. 99 anon said at 11:30 PM on January 30th, 2017:

    he said you had to look for value when you don’t have draft picks. Will say asde from finger waiving too much none of those guy proved problematic.

  100. 100 Anders said at 3:53 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    Majority of guys with a DUI or similar in college never have problems in the NFL.

    If you are a willing team, you can often get a better talent a round or two later if you bet on guys with some problems in college.

  101. 101 anon said at 2:54 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Ray Lewis was a killer choice for the Ravens

  102. 102 Mac said at 2:56 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Zing!

  103. 103 Tumtum said at 1:08 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    It will be interesting to see. Moral character isn’t something I worry about with Floyd. Sure he had a DUI. I can forgive that. No one was hurt.

    What really worries me about Floyd is that he is a bust with effort concerns. We have plenty of busts around here.

  104. 104 hrtak said at 3:48 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    Trade Barwin for Brandon Marshall

  105. 105 Tumtum said at 12:31 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    That kinda would make sense. Brandon way more expensive than Conor?

  106. 106 CrackSammich said at 2:09 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Barwin:
    2017: $7,750,000 base / $8,350,000 cap / $600,000 dead
    2018: $9,250,000 base / $10,250,000 cap / $0 dead ($1mil roster bonus)

    Marshall:
    2017: $7,500,000 base / $7,500,000 cap / $0 dead

    http://overthecap.com/player/connor-barwin/875/
    http://overthecap.com/player/brandon-marshall/106/

  107. 107 Sb2bowl said at 2:44 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I don’t think we would do it unless we could get him to sign on for another year or two after 2017. That guy has overcome a lot in his personal and professional life, I think he would be a strong presence and influence to our WR corpse

  108. 108 CrackSammich said at 3:32 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    If we’re cutting Barwin, I don’t see why you wouldn’t make the trade. It’s pretty much an even swap cap wise. (Barwin will never play the last year of that contract)

  109. 109 Stephen E. said at 4:49 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    A corpse certainly could have played better than anyone in our corps.

  110. 110 Sb2bowl said at 6:30 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I spelled it as I meant it. Has been an ongoing theme with me and until they prove otherwise, they all suck

  111. 111 Mac said at 5:07 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Someone should really make a banner for this site with the 2016 WR corpse in kind of a walking dead esque theme.

  112. 112 Sb2bowl said at 6:30 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I’m alright with this idea

  113. 113 Tumtum said at 7:18 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Not so sure we would want him committed for longer. Guy isn’t young. Odds are pretty good he can do well for Wentz next season.

    In general BM is a guy I went from disliking, to fearing early onset cte, to really liking and respecting.

  114. 114 Sb2bowl said at 8:00 AM on February 1st, 2017:

    Same here- with the Birds prioritizing players to grow with Wentz, I don’t see a 1 year player being an option at this point.

  115. 115 unhinged said at 7:20 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I like the idea, but Is he really going to move (again)? I remember him stating that NY was his last stop when he joined the Jets. The guy has been a textbook model for beating the odds, and he is still a very good receiver.

  116. 116 eagleyankfan said at 8:04 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I get that AJ would cost a lot of money but to cross him off the list because of a suspension is silly. If the Eagles are serious about adding AJ, that suspension wouldn’t hold them back.

    …

    Would have loved to read “great route runner” for any of those WR’s. Wheaton “could be a bargain for someone”. Hmm, nice choice of words. T-Law didn’t say “could be a bargain for the Eagles”.

    …

    We know how T-Law feels about the Eagles wr’s. Would be interesting to see where he rates Eagles wr’s with the list above? Like Sheppard “but has value because he can catch passes and cover kicks/punts.” Would Sheppard would an upgrade over Aggie?

  117. 117 Anders said at 8:15 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    The suspension will cause to some issues regarding protection against the guaranteed money

  118. 118 Tumtum said at 1:04 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Wheaton is a guy I don’t really want honestly. Jeffery either. It isn’t because he is expensive. It is because he isn’t worth what he will get. More for Media Mike type reasons than anything else.

  119. 119 Corry said at 8:23 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I wonder if having Mike Groh on board changes the level of interest the team has in Britt and Quick.

  120. 120 Sb2bowl said at 10:14 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I’m sure it won’t hurt- look what Schwartz brought with him from Buffalo. I’d say Nigel worked out well; familiarity always helps when moving to a new situation. Plus he knows their tendencies, strengths, weaknesses

  121. 121 laeagle said at 11:25 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I think it’s great that he’s got insight on those two and Jeffrey. When evaluating a guy like Jeffrey, who has some question marks, and lesser known guys with their own question marks, it’s pretty handy to have someone on staff who knows their work habits, personalities, etc. If anyone knows that a guy is a lazy stiff, it would be his position coach.

  122. 122 A_T_G said at 8:40 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    Jimmy lists Torrey Smith as an almost guaranteed cut: “In 2017, Smith will count for $9,600,000 against the Niners’ cap, $4,800,000 of which they can save if they release or trade him. It is highly unlikely they will keep him on their books at $9,600,000…”

    As a free agent, where would the 28-year old WR who looked good in Baltimore, then disappeared in SF, rank? Is he in the same tier as the two Kennys?

  123. 123 Sb2bowl said at 10:13 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I’d say right now, he’s a tier 3 guy with the potential to be a tier 2 guy- which should put his price in the upper tier 3 range. He’s got a lot of speed, but that competitive fire he had in Baltimore seemed to be extinguished in San Fran (not that I blame him). He was never going to be confused with Steve Smith on any level; I’m hesitant about his current production.
    He’s never had more than 65 receptions in a season, but if you take out his last year in San Fran he’s averaging over 17 yards per reception. That feels like 15 more YPR than our current WR corpse

  124. 124 CrackSammich said at 2:00 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I think it needs to be kept in mind that everyone’s competitive fire was extinguished in SF. The organization has been cancer since Harbaugh left.

  125. 125 Sb2bowl said at 2:39 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    That’s why I stated “right now” he’s a tier 3- he has the talent to move up, he just needs a more stable and conducive environment. That’s the Philadelphia Eagle way- lol

  126. 126 anon said at 2:51 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Baltimore let him walk — look at that team’s WR corps.

  127. 127 Sb2bowl said at 3:28 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    They didn’t want to pay what he was going to get in FA- hence their comp draft picks every year.

  128. 128 Tumtum said at 11:32 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    I think so. Probably better than Kenny but older.

  129. 129 GordonGekko said at 11:01 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    Good WR analysis. But there doesn’t seem much for the Eagles here going forward.

  130. 130 Tumtum said at 1:02 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    More likely than not someone he listed here is an Eagle next season…in my humble estimation.

  131. 131 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:10 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I disagree. You dont need a trio of pro bowl WRs to be competitive. We had the worst WRs in the league and we were still in almost every single game this year.

    Surround Wentz just with some average guys and this team looks a lot better. Replace Nelson with Robert Woods and DGB with Kenny Brit and this teams looks a lot better

  132. 132 GordonGekko said at 4:22 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Nelson isn’t going anywhere because it’s nearly a $5 million cap hit if he’s cut, but only $2.5 mil if he stays.

  133. 133 Fufina said at 4:23 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    He costs $0 to keep because his salary is fully guaranteed and already a sunk cost. He sticks on the team, but hopefully as a no.4 WR.

  134. 134 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:33 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    That was just an example how replacing one or two WRs with just average guys would make the offense a lot better.

    I wasnt talking making actual moves

  135. 135 GordonGekko said at 4:34 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    They go together not separate. You are talking out of your ass.

  136. 136 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:40 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    LOL, calm down.

    The point you originally made was that none of the FA Wrs did anything for the Eagles.

    My point was that we dont themto be pro bowl type guys to actually improve the passing game and that any 1 or 2 would be a drastic upgrade over starting DGB and Nelson.

  137. 137 Mac said at 6:49 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/329685c0aeec66c2a8729cf643f20a9bdf3f420d1cbebe91e06dc9beeffd7042.jpg

  138. 138 xmbk said at 11:28 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    Assuming everyone gets their “expected” contract, Woods, Garcon and Torrey Smith would be my preferences. Woods definitely has upside, and would be an improvement for the Eagles even if he played like he did in Buffalo. Garcon would be vet leadership and a reliable target. Plus, the team has struggled against the Redskins recently, and Garcon may play with a chip on his shoulder. I like Smith a little more than either Kenny, though they all fill similar roles. Any 2 of these guys would set the team up for a BPA draft.

  139. 139 CrackSammich said at 11:42 AM on January 31st, 2017:

    The only good thing about having moved down to DC is that Sheena Parveen came with me.

  140. 140 Tumtum said at 1:01 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Not a fan of the town?

  141. 141 CrackSammich said at 1:33 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    The city is a great time, but the suburbs I live in are everything they’re hated for.

  142. 142 truehaynes said at 3:44 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Grew up in dc and I refuse to step foot out there

  143. 143 Tumtum said at 7:20 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Where bouts? Just curious how outsiders feel about my homeland 🙂

  144. 144 CrackSammich said at 8:05 PM on February 3rd, 2017:

    Leesburg. Work in the city.

  145. 145 Tumtum said at 10:03 AM on February 4th, 2017:

    Oh Leesburg..yeah I am from MD side. 15 years ago Leesburg was nothing but cow farms.

  146. 146 CrackSammich said at 8:34 PM on February 4th, 2017:

    It’s on the map now–it’s got a Wegman’s.

  147. 147 daveH said at 6:59 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Sheena Psrveen… cool nane. Hottie. Miss France won Miss Universe contest. Dudes actually ask me why i watch that. …

  148. 148 Insomniac said at 3:28 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/826476375859163137

    Ankle injury.

    http://phi.247sports.com/Bolt/Corey-Davis-pulls-out-of-Senior-Bowl-with-shoulder-injury-50785583

    Shoulder injury

    There has to be questions about his durability right now.

  149. 149 Dave said at 3:42 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    If he injured himself twice just by working out, that does not bode well for him in the NFL when he is actually getting hit.

  150. 150 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:05 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Tweaking an ankle is the easiest thing to do in sports, especially while wearing cleats/spikes. And i don’t blame the guy for not wanting to run and jump on a sprained ankle at the combine when scores = money; even if its an “injury” he play through on Sat/Sun

  151. 151 Insomniac said at 5:59 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Doesn’t sound like a tweak if he can’t recover in almost 2.5 months,

  152. 152 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:05 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Why risk running at the combine while you arent 100 percent? This is why teams have medical checks. As of now this doesn’t seem like a big deal and he doesn’t have history of lingering ankle issues

  153. 153 Insomniac said at 6:16 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I agree with you but it doesn’t sound like it’s a minor injury if you can’t run or jump at the combine. There is always your pro day to “fix” your times if you do poorly.

  154. 154 Fufina said at 9:31 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    It sets a narrative – and he is not from a big school where all the TV scouts and reporters are there to see him work out.

    If you have tweaked an ankle i would let it heal up, hit training again for a month and then do a special pro-day end of March and set your times then.

  155. 155 Media Mike said at 4:50 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    And overall willingness to compete due to his skipping of the Senior Bowl.

  156. 156 Mitchell said at 8:18 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Potential fall to the second round? *salivates*

  157. 157 Insomniac said at 11:14 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I don’t think he makes it out of the first round. He seems like a guy the Patriots would make into a star.

  158. 158 nopain23 said at 6:59 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I have all but given up on Ag. Dude is a headcase and will maybe thrive in a new environment.But with Groh, a full off-season and 1 more yeah with wentz I think DBG can at least be a veritable no. 2 receiver. All the physical tools are there they just need to be developed. Position coaches can make a tangible difference. look at what happened when New England got their former o line coach back.

  159. 159 Insomniac said at 7:26 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Speaking of DGB, he has no more leeway. Now this would be an indirect message set up by the team or some smear piece but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true.

    http://www.4phillysports.com/single-post/2017/01/30/Eagles-Must-Overhaul-WR-Corps-In-Free-Agency-The-Draft

    “Now consider that two of their young, potentially promising receivers — Green-Beckham and speedster, rookie free agent Bryce Treggs – are far from locks to be on the 53-man roster when the 2017 season begins. Both made sporadic contributions in 2016 as one-dimensional weapons. According to team sources, both prioritized getting acquainted with the Philly nightlife over outworking their teammates, in practice.”

  160. 160 Dave said at 7:57 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Wow! That was an eye-opener. Especially the next paragraph in that article.

  161. 161 scratcherk said at 8:41 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Watching some early games where Ags looked alot better. Quick, good routes. Dunno what happened. Hope he can get his head back. Remember when he was drafted? Well spoken dude, seemed like a hard worker. Things went downhill after the stripper thing.

  162. 162 Tumtum said at 9:24 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    I aint putting any eggs in either of those baskets. Make other plans. If they turn out, great.

  163. 163 Mitchell said at 9:46 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    You mean you aren’t putting any Aggs in that basket?

  164. 164 A Roy said at 10:14 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    He’d drop the baskett.

  165. 165 daveH said at 11:22 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    The Hank Baskett that fumbled in The Super Bowl

  166. 166 Fufina said at 8:11 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    This is a scary WR market to be shopping in – especially with so much money in free agency available and so little talent.

    My ‘problem’ with Jeffery is that you are going to have to pay him top 3 or even the biggest WR contract in the NFL, and he is probably not a top 10 WR, being much more of a 10-20 WR ranking type guy. Add in suspension issues and injury concerns there is no upside (even if he has a 1600 yard season… your paying him to produce that) to Jeffery and a lot of downsides.

    You have to be comfortable as a team paying ~$15mil a year for 1200ish yards and 7 TDs if he stays healthy / on the field.

    Pryor, Britt and to an extent Floyd, have shown they can be difference making WR’s, but all have off the field/character concerns (especially Floyd).

    Desean and Garcon are the most proven WR options after Jeffery but are 30+ and descending and may not be the best timeline fit.

    After than all the rest are just guys, all of whom are worse than Matthews (who many people think we need to upgrade) with less upside. They may have more speed or better hands – but their negatives outweigh those advantages.

    They only WR’s i would sign are Pryor/Britt/DeSean/Garcon this off season and i would need my scouting department to sign off on Pryor/Britt off the field before i went there.

  167. 167 Mr. Magee said at 9:05 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    My list is even narrower, as I would not include DeSean

  168. 168 Fufina said at 9:28 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    Why? He is an aging player but he would realistically only have 2017 guaranteed at this point with a couple of team options in 18 and 19. I doubt he will make more than $6-7mil a year and should be good for 800 yards a couple of TD’s, and is a better fit than Garcon since he is more of slot/possession type WR where we already have Matthews. The advantage of an ‘old guy’ is you only need to give a shorter term contract, allowing you to draft and develop his replacement or splash for a legit No.1 WR next year in free agency or pull a trade.

    Helps maintain “optionality” lol.

  169. 169 daveH said at 11:20 PM on January 31st, 2017:

    And punt returns ?

  170. 170 Iggles Blitz » Blog Archive » More on Finding Talent said at 12:12 AM on February 1st, 2017:

    […] I mentioned in the piece on WRs that the Eagles would prefer to add young talent. Some of you said the Eagles should forget about age and just sign the best players. I think the Eagles would be wise to focus on youth. The point in having a talented young QB is to build around him. You want Carson Wentz to spend several seasons playing with his receivers. […]

  171. 171 droid3000 said at 10:55 PM on February 2nd, 2017:

    What’s josh Gordon’s situation?

  172. 172 Iggles Blitz » Blog Archive » A True Home Run said at 12:02 AM on February 3rd, 2017:

    […] As I mentioned recently, Stills makes sense for the Eagles. […]