A True Home Run
Posted: February 3rd, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 158 Comments »We love to pick apart bad free agent signings and poor draft picks. Sometimes we forget to focus on the moves that go right, like the signing of FS Malcolm Jenkins.
https://twitter.com/NFLPA/status/827284178697728001
That’s quite the honor for Jenkins.
He is one of those rare players that is terrific on and off the field. It is easy to get caught up in the players who struggle on the field or who can’t stay out of trouble off it, but Jenkins deserves every bit of praise he gets. I think Jenkins understands that being an NFL player does carry responsibility with it and he handles that role just brilliantly.
One of the good guys…
PE.com has the story on Jenkins winning the award.
*****
Source: If the #Dolphins let him hit the FA market, #Eagles will target Kenny Stills in free agency https://t.co/eHXfyaYcoN
— Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) February 2, 2017
This would not be a surprising development.
As I mentioned recently, Stills makes sense for the Eagles.
Stills is also interesting. He showed promise for the Saints, but they traded him to Miami a couple of years ago. You always wonder why a team would trade away a talented, cheap young player. Stills has some size at 6-1, 194. He is a good deep threat, averaging 17 yards per catch for his career. He had a nightmare drop in the season opener (wide open for long TD), but generally seemed to have good hands. He isn’t as good as Britt, but is younger. Stills won’t turn 25 until April. Howie Roseman talked of wanting to add young players that could grow with Carson Wentz.
RE: Kenny Stills — one reason i don't go hogwild on this stuff way ahead of March is that Miami wants to keep him. Could be moot discussion
— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) February 2, 2017
This is a fair point by Les. But…Miami has a young star in Jarvis Landry and spent a Top 10 pick on Devante Parker so they might have to let Stills go. Landry will be getting a big deal soon and Parker is a guy they want to become a bigger part of the offense. I think there is a real chance that Stills does hit the market.
Stills is not a great player. He would not instantly solve the Eagles WR issues. He could be part of a good group. If you had him and Jordan Matthews plus a draft pick and possibly another free agent, you could have a good group of WRs. I hope the Eagles can find an elite talent, but that’s not always possible. Adding someone like Stills would be a positive move and a step in the right direction.
We’ll know more in a month.
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Congratulations to Malcolm. Great to have him as an Eagle.
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Nice job Malcom Powder!!! On another note, who is the consensus favorite corner right now at Iggles Blitz?
Lattimore for me.
9th and Passyunk, but more towards the Wharton side.
My favorite is the top right where it lists all the recent articles.
any of the corners on my paycheck.
if only we had me in the front office we’d have landry instead of matthews. call me jeff!
I’m still sad that we didn’t take him over Matthews.
#culture man.
not even close.
Trade for Landry Howie. JUST DO IT.
I didn’t want Jenkins here, he wasn’t the same guy that he is today when he was with the Saints. Sproles didn’t get the same recognition (Pro Bowl) either while he was with the Saints too. Could it be that we turn ex-Saints players into gold?
Wonder what would happen if we got Brandin Cooks?
That’s 100% a guy I call about due to their salary situation down there.
You want to talk about a distressed asset in New Orleans, Stephon Anthony played about as much as Kendricks last year.
Think we could trade Kendricks for him?
Nah. They need to dump money. Maybe Ags in a my trash for your junk or Kendricks for a late pick and then give them that late pick for Anthony.
How’d Anthony fall out of favor down there? I loved the guy in the draft- weird to see him not translate (but we can relate, as we’ve got AGS).
Saints do some weird stuff, hopefully we can pry Cooks from their Cajun hands
Payton came out in December and said Anthony was having trouble diagnosing. I had a 3rd on him coming out of Clemson. He’s a physical talent, but Clemson used him as a see ball get ball stat stuffer, and blitzed him on obvious passing downs. That seemed odd to me (because given his athleticism he shouldn’t have had issues in coverage). Seems he’s just kind of stupid. That’s why if we move Kendricks and Anthony can be had for peanuts, it’s a smart move to replace him with a similar player who is younger, cheaper, and physically bigger, and who knows maybe the light comes on.
Do you think that would fit with Schwartz? Wasn’t he on record saying Alonso was dumber than a box of rocks- see ball, get ball type player? Do you think that it would work in our scheme? Seems like we need thumpers, but smart players as well.
This really goes to show how intelligent (at least, football wise) you need to be to play and excel in the NFL. Guys have all of the physical talent in the world, but they can’t think their way out of a wet paper bag.
I think in the Kendricks role he would be fine. And I haven’t heard details but there’s enough out there that Kiko is dumber than the person who is dumber than a box of rocks.
Anthony at MLB and Hicks freed up to cause mayhem at WIL; sure thing!
Unfortunately I’m pretty sure Anthony is Kendricks 2.0, just dumb as shit.
The upside would you would be replacing Kendricks with a like for like except Anthony is cost controlled for two more years, and bigger.
Multiple Pro Bowls, fat contract, and maybe break every Eagles receiving record.
It’s stuck in too deep and held with crazy glue.
So, lots of talk about how this draft line up with our needs, although we have need sort of eerywhere. I see it though. With a little luck we could go BPA all the way and still adress team needs from the top to the bottom:
1: WR. There are two really good ones in this draft, one might fall to us at 14 and give us that no. 1 the offense sorely needs.
2: CB. very deep draft with a good possibiity of a 1st roundish talent being there in the second. Our next-highest need, we could get a no. 1. CB here.
3: RB. Good RB’s can often be found in the third, and this year there could very possibly be a great one available to us and we get a 3-down weapon here.
4: DT/WR/CB. As it has been reported, this draft has great depth on these three positions. With a little luck there could be a good starter for us at one of them here in the fourth.
5: OG. Moving Seumalo to center creates an immediate need at left guard. LG/DT. Left guard is often talked about as the easiest position to find a capable starter on the O-line, and we have drafted starters for the interior in the fifth or later before (like Kelce). Its really not at all impossible that there will be a capable starter available for us here.
I guess everything outside the fifth are just depth/developmental guys unless you get lucky so I’ll stop here. But you could make the case that we have chances of finding eventual starters or good role players at RB, DT, OL and slot WR here too.
My point is, I sort of eye the possibility of the draft turning out like the above considering the depth and talent available where we draft, and I have these fantasies that we will be able to draft five or six impact starters at the biggest positions of need in this one go around if everything works out perfectly.
Probably, something completely different will happen and they will take a TE in the first who will need a year or two to learn blocking at the pro level and then pick up an o-tackle in a weak class in the second. God, lets hope not..
So, lots of talk about how this draft lines up with our needs, although we have needs sort of everywhere. I see it though. With a little luck we could go BPA all the way and still address team needs from the top to the bottom:
1: WR. There are two really good ones in this draft, one might fall to us at 14 and give us that no. 1 the offense sorely needs.
2: CB. very deep draft with a good possibiity of a 1st roundish talent being there in the second. Our next-highest need, we could get a no. 1. CB here.
3: RB. Good RB’s can often be found in the third, and this year there could very possibly be a great one available to us and we get a 3-down weapon here.
4: DT/WR/CB. As it has been reported, this draft has great depth on these three positions. With a little luck there could be a good starter for us at one of them here in the fourth.
5: OG/DT. Moving Seumalo to center creates an immediate need at left guard. Left guard is often talked about as the easiest position to find a capable starter on the O-line, and we have drafted starters for the interior in the fifth or later before (like Kelce). Its really not at all impossible that there will be a capable starter available for us here.
I guess everything outside the fifth are just depth/developmental guys unless you get lucky so I’ll stop here. But you could make the case that we have chances of finding good role players at RB, DT, OL and slot WR here too.
My point is, I sort of eye the possibility of the draft aligning perfectly with our draft position and team needs like the above, considering the depth and talent available where we draft, and I have these fantasies that we will be able to get five or six impact starters at the biggest positions of need in this one go around if everything works out perfectly. That would go a long way to completing this team, with the future at O-tackle the only really difficult issue to overcome immediately.
Probably, something completely different will happen and they will take a TE in the first who will need a year or two to learn blocking at the pro level and then pick up an o-tackle in a weak class in the second. God, lets hope not.
This draft just shows how important that regained 1st round pick was. I still do the Wentz trade 10/10 but that chance to get a top tier talent at CB/WR/DE can matters 2-3 years down the road
Absolutely. When it is all said and done and Wentz is a top6 QB in this league, I think the trading up which Howie worked out in several steps over the course of many weeks, will be looked back upon as one of the greatest feats of GM’ing in many years. This is not like the Cowboys lucking into Dak in the 5th or the Redskins trading three entire drafts to get up and pick RGIII, this was subtle, deliberate, aggressive and brilliant work to get the best QB talent to come out in several years (we will see) while preserving the essential draft picks to build the team up.
I agree, Howie. I will say that this wasn’t all part of a master plan. It was taking advantage of the situation several times and having things work out. Sorta like making a $10 Yo bet, hitting it and letting it ride twice more.
I actually disagree. We can’t knwo for sure of course, but everythign bout that draft and how they got to Wentz appear to tell the story of a franchise that very early decided to go and get the best QB in the draft by any and all means nessecary. And then did just that, without mortgaging the future.
But the future was mortgaged. Without Minnesota’s bad luck, Bradford’s salary would’ve meant losing players we couldn’t afford to keep and not signing free agents. And we wouldn’t have a first this year. This was the key step. And it was luck. It was luck Miami was willing to trade or we couldn’t have moved from #13 to #8 and dump unproductive salary. The only thing done by design was the trade to #2, and we were lucky that Wentz wasn’t selected 1st. I’m not saying Howie didn’t do a great job. He did. I’m just saying yo, yo, yo.
I have no idea what you mean, honeslyt. It wasnt luck that Miami traded with us, Howie negotiated that deal with the purpose of making the trade. Its not like they flipped a coin and then signed the papers. And it sure as hell wasnt luck that Wentz was there, you can be damn sure they knew for certain that the Rams were taking Goff. (Its been reported widely after the draft.) Minnesotas bad luck was of coruse a fluke, but ist pretty easy to argue that Howie set the teams QB structure up with the specific purpose of being able to trade Bradford after 2016. They signed him for two years, and then spent all that capital on Wentz and Chase anyway, clearly this was the plan. Maybe he saw the possibility to trade with Elway, maybe he really wanted Bradford to be the mentor this year. Regardless, ending up with more than one capable QB on your team the way that they did had nothing to do with luck and everythign to do with the way they attacked the position in the offseason. The fact that he got the Viking to pay a 1st for him is not luck either, unless you think they flipped a coin for that trade as well.
Well, say you’re in a bar and decide to hit on a young lady. As it turns out, she broke up with her boyfriend this week and is looking for a self-affirming one night stand. You would call that planning. I would call it luck.
Well, say you see this sexy gal that you like, you take the same classes as her, find ways to go to her workplace, interview all of her friends, learn about her habits and preferences and where you can find her in her spare time, basically you stalk the shit out of her like a creep with an obsession, and then one night you go to the bar and approach her, and you know exactly what to say and you end up getting lucky.
To be clear I don’t recommend this approach for dating! But its a pretty handy way to go about recruiting good QB’s.
I don’t think he’s that good yet. Not a top 10 guy this year, but’hopefully soon.
3 QBs going before 14 is a must.
I hope that happens.
3 QBs, 2 Safeties, OT, MLB and a TE would be great.
won’t happen – people haven’t been shy about not taking qbs early.
Yeah, and Dallas wasn’t planning to take Wentz in the first. The word of the day is obfuscation.
QB class is weak but teams are desperate. I don’t think there’s a QB worth taking until late in the first round. Regardless, I think one of the players at the top of the Eagles’ board will be available at 14, 15.
I there are 13 worth taking in picks 1 through 13.
As I’ve been doing the simulated drafts, I’ve been looking at not being position specific at who I take first and then backfilling needs (we have a ton of them) with who really looks like they fell to that spot. I’m really not married to any specific position at 14 (but stupidly 15th according to these crooked simulators), but not opposed to trading down as far as 19.
So on that note.
Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): Teez Tabor, CB, Florida (A)
Round 2 Pick 11: Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A)
Round 2 Pick 18 (T.B.): Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (B+)
Round 4 Pick 12: Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 33: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (A)
Round 5 Pick 11: Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas (A-)
Round 6 Pick 10: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, OLB, Tennessee (B-)
Round 7 Pick 12: Jeremy Cutrer, CB, Middle Tennessee (B+)
yes, I am all for BPA entirely as well, considering the holes we have on the roster and the fact that we are probable at least two off seasons away from being competitive. A lot can change in two years, so it makes no sense to be guided by needs. My point was merely that we have some holes that we have positions where we have been struggling for a long time now (corner, OL, WR) and even a strict BPA approach could end up solving some of our biggest problems pretty much right this year. That is exciting stuff!
Out of most of your simulations- this one is one of the better ones I’ve seen. I like the need/talent aspect that fell this way, as well as depth and a possible 2-3 starters almost immediately. The depth aspect is nice as well; we will need a TE, could probably use a CB earlier than 7, but you managed to get 2 pass rushers (potential DE’s) and a DL that we’ll need.
They’re all luck and randomness to be honest. I just happened to get extremely lucky here.
I hear that- I run simulations (maybe a little too much) when I have free time; I’ll post some of my earlier stuff, compared to later. It’ll be interesting to track and see how things change as evaluations and the off season progresses.
At this point, I like the defensive depth of this draft much more than I like the offensive depth. So far, it seems like grabbing offensive fire-power early is the way to go and then back load with the other side of the ball. That’ll change exactly 764,019 times between now and the draft.
if this is a cb draft i’d say move out of round 1 and take a couple you like.
Would the Eagles consider passing on the opportunity to draft a CB with pick 14/15 because the Schwartz defense doesn’t require top shelf CB talent?
Then follow the theory you’re proposing here to attempt to pick up 2 CBs in round 2/3?
Love your optimism, but realistically if we got three players who could help out immediately and one or two who developed into capable starters in years 2-3, it would be one of the greatest eagles drafts ever. I hope Douglas can have a real impact on this draft because our track record sucks.
Imagine if Jenkins could catch, i like him alot as a safety, dont agree with some of the stuff he stands for(or kneels)
What do you call a DB who can catch?
Wide receiver.
yep, you’re right
So would that mean a DB who can’t catch = Eagles’ Wide Receiver?
It’s so sad that we’re at a point where we’re saying things like, if we just go out and sign two good free agent WRs and hit on taking one early in the draft we’ll have the beginnings of a decent WR corps. So close.
Sad thing is it’s completely true
It could be much worse, we could be looking for a franchise QB.
True dat. Worse would be in three years, if it turns out Wentz isn’t the savior. That would truly. suck.
then we;d be the texans
but for a lot less $$$$
Jenkins is a guy we can be proud to root for, on and off the field.
Except when he plays slot corner.
There’s a good reason why he’s a CB turned safety.
He’s actually not that bad in the slot.
“not bad” in the slot can be just as easily called “not good” either. And when Jenkins is in the slot, Watkins covers nobody at safety.
not everything, that kneeling crap for the national anthem, I dont agree with, but it is his right, wish he could catch a little better too, I do like him in the eagles uniform
It’s Feb talk but I’ll throw in my .02cents and ask for change. Maybe T-Law’s excitement for Jenkins is clouding his thinking. Maybe 1 too PBR. Saints trade a young wr – Red flag. “generally seemed” – Red flag. “Isn’t as good as” — red flag. “not a great player” – red flag. “not solve but be part of a group”. Hmm, 42 catches — Aggie – 36 catches. DGB – 36 catches. Eagles already have a couple of under performing WR’s. Why get one to replace one? I’d rather keep Aggie. 3 teams before your 24? Red Flag. If Miami was impressed with him, they’d find a way to sign him. Eagles clearly have issues with their WR’s. If they want to rebuild in that area – you have to sign better talent. My preference — follow Oakland’s model. Draft franchise QB – check. Next Draft weapons. Wentz still needs time to develop. (man work must be slow if I’m typing this much about a rumor :))
The Eagles are taking lots of swings at “talented,” loser receivers. The reality is the batting average is going to be low. But when you finally connect, it’s worth it. I think it’s a good strategy. It’s not like drafted players pan out more than free agents (they’re just cheaper).
Agreed. They are trying. Drafting and FA’s. Sooner or later something will stick to the wall…
Kenny Stills has far more production than NA and DGB together
a whopping 6 more catches on the season? I guess if you include the RAC, then sure “far more” production…
Are we using a single season only or do we consider stills had been much better over his whole career?
Oakland did it the opposite way- they drafted their WR first and then got Carr in Round 2. And this year they went defense round 1 as well, but you tell a good story
2014 — drafted Carr 2nd round (round 1 Khalil Mack LB)
2015 — drafted Amari Cooper
so, what’s the opposite away again? Maybe poker isn’t your game. I know Ike, let’s have a spelling contest.
Thanks for the correction, my memory isn’t what it used to be! As for spelling, I just look for the underline squiggly red line
I’ll be a daisy if you do
:). Was hoping someone would get it…lol
Plus the rumors that he wants over 10 million. If the Eagles paid that much for him I’d want to punch baby seals in the mouth, luckily for seals I live in Florida but there are plenty of manatees around.
This message reads as if you just stole aboard an enemy sub and need to quickly relay some vital information before it dives. We will all pray you are able to disable the torpedos, override the ballast tanks, and force the sub to surface. God speed.
14: R1P14
CB MARSHON LATTIMORE
OHIO STATE
43: R2P11
CB GAREON CONLEY
OHIO STATE
74: R3P10
WR ISAIAH FORD
VIRGINIA TECH
117: R4P12
WR ZAY JONES
EAST CAROLINA
138: R4P33
TE JAKE BUTT
MICHIGAN
156: R5P11
EDGE DAESHON HALL
TEXAS A&M
Please
I’m sorry nobody dignified this with a reply.
Nice collection of talent. What did you go for 6th and 7th? RB and G maybe?
14: R1P14 CB MARSHON LATTIMOREOHIO ST
43: R2P11 G FORREST LAMPW KENTUCKY
74: R3P10 WR ISAIAH FORDVIRGINIA TECH
117: R4P12 DL JALEEL JOHNSON IOWA
138: R4P33 CB RASUL DOUGLAS WEST VIRGINIA
156: R5P11 RB ALVIN KAMARA TENNESSEE
195: R6P10 LB MATT MILANO BOSTON COLLEGE
233: R7P12 OT DAN SKIPPER ARKANSAS
I’m anxious to see how pocic and elfein grade it. I think most iggles fans want CB and WR to be the iggles top 2 to 3 picks. But I really think Oline needs to be infused with good young talent. I feel like if wentz has better Oline play he can elevate the personnel around him. A better run game also helps out Mr wentz. I would like us to grab one of the top interior line men in this draft. It would be amazing to see this team establish an identity in the trenches. Tough and nasty like the good old days.
I’m interested in this topic as well. I asked (and D3FB) answered with his opinion in the previous comments section.
Everyone acts as if we have not added any young players to the OL. We drafted 2 promising rookies last year. 1 should start and 1 should be the top bench guy. We also took a flyer on dillion gordon. I’m interested to see what a year of OL coaching has done for him.
I’d prefer a good LG in free agency and focus elsewhere in the draft. Ronald Leary is near the top of my wishlist.
At the same time, Wentz mitigated a lot of poor O-line play by extending plays, but our receivers very rarely were able to capitalize on the time Wentz bought. I like O-line, I want to keep the franchise safe, but that offense will be stuck in neutral until he gets weapons, those plays he extends are supposed to be back-breakers, but our guys just don’t get open. I don’t think investing in the O-line will help the offense with the cupboards this empty. So hopefully we can help both with the comnination of draft and FA
Our Idiots (read: WR) need to learn how to play football with a QB who has the ability to extend plays.
With a little perception and hustle, they will have a chance to drop a pass 6, 7, 8 seconds after the snap.
Brutal.
Taking a O-line in the draft this year, especially early, is like taking home the last girl at the bar at night. Ya, you need a girl, but the one you are getting isn’t going to be very good.
Unless the hype train changes during the combine, this QB class isn’t looking too hot.
https://twitter.com/CharleyCasserly/status/827536445359407104
Hopefully Qbs continue to be over drafted. CLE can pass on a QB once but teams like SF, AZ, CHI, NYJ only get once chance to grab one if they want one in the first.
Daniel Jeremiah has 6 teams in front of us that could take a QB in round 1. The only addition to your list is Buffalo. I could also see the Saints in the QB market. I find it very likely at least 2 QBs going in front of us, if not 3 of them, depending on the combine and media hype.
Howie said he didn’t see any franchise qbs in this or the next draft and that’s why he traded up for wentz (not a top 20 qb)
He’s looking smarter and smarter for doing so.
Just think back to how Wentz and Goff were viewed at this point last year. Pretty similar situation. Give that hype train time to start rolling and we’ll be fine.
well at least there’s an office SB lunch today (wings etc.). I wore a blue shirt as a compromise. An actual Pats shirt or jersey would probably burn my skin. But you know, it’s a free lunch. I almost wore by Owens jersey, but I’d likely not get any wings if I did that.
They are the ones who should be ashamed of their cheating franchise. Not you, my friend.
Ill bet all the wings they werent the only ones
What do you know DaveH? I only take bets with “Cool Sunglasses” Dave.
The same weekend that Pats were ‘caught”, eagles signal callers were putting towels up to cover their signals. No one ever mentions that.
I wouldnt trust the commisioner ever. . So id bet that he had Pats take the fall for othet less fuerte franchises
the wings and pizza were pretty good. They had been too, but I skipped b/c of a beer fest this evening.
#DownVote for skipping beer. What’s wrong with you, Rob?! 😉
When you are behind enemy lines, you do what you need to do to survive…and get wings.
Tommy- please change the logo at the top of your page. Think of all of the current Eagles you could feature rather than Desean, Vick and Buck. Otherwise, love your work. Signed, fan living in the present
That’s McCoy brother. I kinda like the logo, that’s when I started following Tommy so it reminds me of that time.
Say what you will about Vick, but that dude has redemption as a part of his story; so does Philadelphia. I’m happy to see him at the top of this page.
Totally agree. Plus I rather see Vick atop than McNabb these days. #StarShip#7
That’s a tough call, GE. I loved them both, but for entirely different reasons.
Vick, for all that he was- was polarizing. I was at the preseason game when we signed him- couldn’t believe it. He didn’t disappoint, but it was a disappointment that we didn’t get to advance in the post season that year.
McNabb, to me- best QB we’ve had in this franchise. For all of his faults, quirks, worm burners– dude was a baller. TO, and then his injuries derailed a potential HOF career. Sad times for sure, but we can’t re-write history.
I hope the fan base doesn’t make the same mistake with Wentz. Kid seems to have a good head on his shoulders, but I wonder what he will be like in 10 years (if he reaches that point). He’s got a chance to be something really special, and I hope he can reach as high as it takes to hold that Super Bowl trophy one day.
Make him a new one, brother.
um, maybe you should update your name Mr. living in the present.
There’s always a Bush being a moron somewhere I’m sure, it’s timeless. Maybe it’s the biblical bush? Stop being on fire idiot!
hat tip for biblical bush, is that the one that talked to Moses?
Moses, 39th year lost in the desert: ” ‘face the Egyptians’ it says, ‘milk and honey’ he says, maybe figure out how to stop being on fire before handing out life pro-tips”
Roasted
If you are coming to Tommy’s site for anything other than content and comments, you’re in the wrong spot. And focusing on the wrong shit. Its like remarking that Albert Einstein had unkempt hair.
Im gonna be a little sad when the link to Tim and Sheil comes down.
Question to those who do the mock drafts (Media Mike):
Whats your best/favorite mock draft from last year (if you keep track)? Best = best players after one season — not most accurate
#drunk
updated Top 50 for Matt Miller. A OT jumps in the top 15. Miller also thinks Mixon is the 2nd best RB in the draft.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2690513-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-ohio-state-is-db-u-updated-big-board-more
Mixon isn’t going to be at the combine. I wonder why he has Mixon over Cook?
What does the combine have to do with anything? He thinks Mixon is better than Cook.
Mixon is getting punished for his off the field stuff. NFL cannot in the CBA punish him for stuff done in college but they can make his draft as low key as possible.
They don’t have him at the combine because they’re not planning on drafting him early or mid most likely. I’m sure he’s off the board for most teams, so why waste a combine spot on him?
A lot? When has a supposedly top 3 talent at his position not get invited to arguably the biggest job interview in their life? Yea I read that, I just don’t see it. The only thing Mixon has on Cook is power and maybe route-running.
Hoping we can get him in the third
I wouldn’t mind but there’s other guys that I would want over him right now in the 3rd. If he’s there in the 4th then I would take him immediately.
Cook! I’d love Cook in the 3rd. I’d love Mixon to be in jail, but at least never on my team.
Because Matt Miller, as good of a read as he is, doesn’t have to answer to fans, owners, and Mr. Goodell. Mixon has to be at great risk of being off the board for almost every team due to that video.
Still find it amazing that we live in a world where Donald and Mickey are running the show..
Relevant…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siGCZLQeKDY
I cant believe we voted a muslim in 2x’s and almost voted in a witch
I can’t believe you can vote period.
I’m not a Trump guy, but enough already. We are here to talk Birds. Go to a different site if you want to bitch about politics.
Who’s bitching?! I get your point though. Mea culpa. #GoBirds
The Stills news tells me a few things.
1. Desean isn’t atop the radar
2. We want a verticle threat (as we expected), and if this falls through desean could happen (yuck)
Why so down on Desean?
Expensive, old small guy. Lots to dislike with his signing. Plus I heard he’s in a gang.
Point one is my number one concern with any of the guys under discussion. I don’t want to see them drop premium $ on a guy with less than premium production.
Is the gang thing still a joke? And no one ever knows how much its going to cost to sign him
Still a joke.
I am down on Desean, but that is sort of an aside to this post. That was more of an objective.
Easiest and quickest way explain my dislike of Desean is that he is an aging non-max effort guy.
Just to inventory a few of the more detailed long form mock drafts out there…..
Draft tek has us with: (doesn’t have our Browns pick up there for end of 4th)
1 – Ramczyk OT Wisconsin
2- Dede Westbrook WR Oklahoma
3- Tre’davious White CB LSU
4 -Carlos Henderson WR LA Tech
5 – Corey Clement RB Wisconsin
6 – Hunter Dimick DE Utah
7 – Jon Toth C Kentucky
Walter football (only goes 4 rounds)
1 – Quincy Wilson CB Florida
2 – Zay Jones WR ECU
3 – Brian Hill RB Wyoming
4 – Carlos Henderson WR LA Tech
A quick time out to compliment you, MM, for keeping endless offseasons relevant. I and others, I’m sure, welcome your mock drafts and your well-informed analyses. I hardly follow the college game and feel like an interloper when I finally tune in for the championship game. Thus, I don’t know the players except for the ones who are hyped.
So, again, many thanks. Keep it up. Otherwise, I may have to follow the Union. Actually, I follow all Philly sports very closely, except for the Union.
I’m not on the level of the 5 or 6 guys here who really scout the college game, I’m just a steady reader of secondary sources on the draft, FA, salary, etc.
I just really enjoy all aspects of the NFL on a year round basis and I’m happy to keep up with whoever on here likes that element as well.
And thanks.
But here’s what I like: your creativity without going wild.
I assume you meant on overall length of comment posts; I’ve been accused of “wild” takes on a lot of team / NFL issues.
In that case, I’ll take the “wild.” Works for me. And the wild is always a possibility. Who, in his/her “wildest” imagination, would have predicted a trade with the Browns for Wentz? Or, for that matter, a fallen Bridgewter, which would lead so improbably to recouping a first round pick?
I’m just here for the Barner bashings.
Those will be back in the mix in full once we start moving towards camp.
I love the mock drafts where he trades back two spots in the 1st and ends up with eight 2nd round picks.
Who am I to say no to a good offer?
A benevolent and vengeful god. Emphasis on vengeful.
Not sure why people think DeSean is going to be so expensive. Generally the NFL pays for future production, and we know exactly what DeSean is at this point – 900ish yards, 4-5 TD’s, 50-60 receptions. There is no upside, you buy what produces.
People like Stills and Pryor have upside and some team is going to value them for what they could produce, rather than what they will produce. Stills is probably going to cost more or the same as DeSean, be a worse player with no history of his production.
Stills is not a good enough player to be a long term solution for the Eagles – he is a 2-3 year stop gap while we draft and develop better players, exactly the same as Desean.. People used to get frustrated with DeSean disappearing but Stills is a ghost in comparison. Stills in 2016 had 4 games with under 20 yards, and 8 under 42. Stills is not a quick athlete, he is a fast one, put a CB who can match him stride for stride in man and you can cover him 1v1 and make him disappear, he lacks the sudden change of direction/speed to threaten a CB the way DeSean can covered 1v1.
Stills does not change coverage or demand a double team – he can produce if mismatched on a slower CB on go routes, and can pick up some shorter catches in zone. Stills is a no.3 WR who because when mismatched can make 4-5 huge plays a year that balloon his stats and make him get on highlight shows, but he doesn’t effect games, and will get paid like a guy who does.
DeSean is coming off of a 3 year / $24 million deal that saw him produce less than what he did here.
I’d hope he’d be able to be signed for 2 years / $12 to $14 million here.
Stills > Desean seems good to me.
I’m at the point where I don’t want to sign anybody external to anything other than a mid range deal unless they’re in the TO level of difference maker if you add them.
I’d rather make some “fill out the roster” type signings and keep the big deals to retaining star / superstar players we draft.
howie is great at finding guys
Malcolm is turning into a BLM militant. He wore a black shirt with the word BLACK in bold letters at a SB event last night. I already can’t stand him. He endorses criminal agitators. F U C K HIM.